[rys]

I do all as should be done. Tested on prof 7500c/ 7301 / technisat usb hd.
You can take a look at scan performed 5 minutes ago, using technisat usb hd. After transfer channels from transedit to dvbviewer signal of any channel is "invisible" for dvbviewer.
http://screenshooter...6250727/oxgntav
http://screenshooter...6250727/lydaluo

[Derrick]

Ok, you are referring to the scrambled PMTs. But what can you possible gain with these empty channels? There is no known PID from any elementary stream and dvbviewer can't read the PMT.

At least transedit now shows the PMTs

/edit

maybe you've done exactly what I have written above

Here it shows a lock. Take another device and don't use the recording service..

..works with RS as well

25.11.11 18:08:38.640 TUCCommandClient Set Tuner
Tunertype: 1, Frequency: 11495, Symbolrate: 44100, LNB: 9750, Selection: 0, Polarity: 1, DiseqC: 6, FEC: 9, AudioPID: 0, VideoPID: 0, PMT: 4100, SID: 4220, SatModulation: 141, DiseqCValue: 0, NID: 1, Flags: 24
25.11.11 18:08:39.250 TBDATurbosight.Opendevice bvTurbosight
25.11.11 18:08:39.250 TUCCommandClient Allocate Prof 7500 DVBS Tuner (6)
25.11.11 18:08:39.250 TUCCommandClient got Hardware
25.11.11 18:08:39.703 TBDACITBSModule CI Base SetTuner Entering
25.11.11 18:08:39.703 TBDACITBSModule CI Base SetTuner Leaving
25.11.11 18:08:39.703 TDVBHardware.SetTuner Set Plugins
25.11.11 18:08:39.703 TDVBHardware.SetTuner Set Plugins done
25.11.11 18:08:39.703 TUCCommandClient Set the tuner

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[rys]

Derrick, on 25 November 2011 - 17:51, said:

Ok, you are referring to the scrambled PMTs. But what can you possible gain with these empty channels? There is no known PID from any elementary stream and dvbviewer can't read the PMT.

At least transedit now shows the PMTs

Derrick
if I understood you correctly...
if pids are known and manually written ( using channel editor) the signal of particular channel will be displayed on dvbviewer's signal status bar (i.e. will be illuminated on green) ?
PS
I used all possible combinations with pids showed by transedit for BBC One and no-one was successful.

[Derrick]

no, apparently you don't understand correctly

Do you see any pids in my screenshot except the pmt_pid which was read from the pat? Mabe your assigned device has bandwidth problems. Make sure that the dvbviewer uses the same device that was used by transedit for the analysis and the scan.

[rys]

I had asked before you edited your post - mow it's all clear lookimg at your screenshot.
Thank's a lot Derrick

[Derrick]

sorry for the confusion..

I guess the entire transponder except for the readable part of the SI is scrambled with a constant CW. Because each pid_stream is scrambled separately, the PIDs won't change. What you have is PAT, PMT and names from the SDT. The PID_mapping for the video and audio streams of the different services could be taken from the real DVB-T transmission (look-up from PMTs). But you still would need the CW

[rys]

Derrick, on 25 November 2011 - 19:58, said:

sorry for the confusion..

I guess the entire transponder except for the readable part of the SI is scrambled with a constant CW. Because each pid_stream is scrambled separately, the PIDs won't change. What you have is PAT, PMT and names from the SDT. The PID_mapping for the video and audio streams of the different services could be taken from the real DVB-T transmission (look-up from PMTs). But you still would need the CW

Regardimg PID mapping you are right, scrambling is probably done more tricky and cw itself is not sufficient.
rys