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More than one year ago, i've posted here an ini file for french tnt frequencies. (they are all finished with 166 mhz)

I just installed the last version (your prog is better and better) and the scan with your european ini still misses a lot of channels (the "france television" ones)

What is your problem, with taking remarks in consideration, bad feeling about french people from the last 39/45 war ?

I've a page about your DVBViewer on my site, and i'm obliged to answer a lot of mails about this prob. Please, update your files with a working French ini. (if you need i can repost mine).

It cost nothing and frenchies are 60 millions of people !!!!

 

I made a remark too about the favourite list begining from 0, witch is stupid for an human beeing.

So, when you set a num1 keyboard shortcut to your first favoutite channel, you got the second one. That does not make sense.

In order to get the favourites working for a "non martian", you need to set a dummy channel in first position.

It is still here, as stupid as before.

 

Please, hackbart, open your mind !

 

Oh, an other suggestion: As there is 4 different monitors some can use with your prog: standart 4/3 and 19/9 tv monitors, and standart + 16/10 PC monitors.

May-be a good idea would be to can choose the monitor some use, and, in a submenu, for each, to have the choice between formats.

For example, with 16/10 wide monitors: 4/3 format (normal tv) with black side margins, 16/9 (with little up and bottom black margins) and full screen (with no black margins, and a little loose of image on the sides, all those respecting the original proportion.

Assigning a shotcut for each, and you can switch instant, with or without a remote between tv news and the next 16/9 moovie, following your preference.

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More than one year ago, i've posted here an ini file for french tnt frequencies. (they are all finished with 166 mhz)

That's how it should be. Users help users. That's what enables DVBViewer to be an international software.

 

DVBViewer.com as a company is too small to cover all world-wide requirements, and there is not enough money coming in to engage additional people who look after things like that. DVBViewer is just a 15 Euro software, you know... however, your transponder lists have been taken into consideration, in the framework of a general solution. See here:

 

http://www.DVBViewer.info/forum/index.php?...st&p=159644

 

What is your problem, with taking remarks in consideration, bad feeling about french people from the last 39/45 war ?

Sorry to say, but that's a very silly question. Nobody here cares whether you are German, French, Chinese, Eskimo or Extraterrestrian. :rolleyes: It just doesn't matter. We are software developers in a global village, no politicians or world war veterans.

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Quite arrogant from us to use the Zero as start number. My remote does have a 0 and i'm quite happy to deal with it. Zero is much more than just a number:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/0_%28number%29

And if you really have a problem with it, just clone the first entry in order to have your list started with a 1.

 

Honestly i dont see your point. The DVBViewer lives from contributions. This starts with third party channel lists and ends with home made osd skins or even plugins. These can and should be provided here in this forum.

 

Christian

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Honestly i dont see your point. The DVBViewer lives from contributions. This starts with third party channel lists and ends with home made osd skins or even plugins. These can and should be provided here in this forum.

Lars, i had taken time to post to you, one year ago, a preformated ini file for France and one other for Paris. Just for your soft.

And your answer, at this time, was to deny, if i remember well, the necessity fot it.

So i was quite desapointed to see, one year later your fantastic soft (the best i know) without, because it cost just a 5 second copy/paste, and because, if i where a newbee, far away from forums, my scan was missing 1/3 of the most important channels in my country. Not good for a so good software.

More than that, i do not know why, at my first install in a new place, , DVBViewer have not taken my ini file in consideration. Confusion betwwen TNT or terrestrilal channels, something in registry ? I had been obliged to re-install in the old location. (and DVB do not simply update, all my serttings had to be redone).

 

For the 39/45 line, it was a joke. i never use smileys.

 

For this remote numbering problem, by habit, 0 is reserved for special command like analog inputs. And 1 for the first favourite is that is what most of normal people will espect. (can use 0 for 10) It is natural, reason why, in C++, like in all the dev renvironnements, if you make loops like for 0 to X, when you list files, results are from 1 to x that you know ;-). As i told-you, i had to answer several mails about that (There is a article about your soft on my site) Number from 1, and you will never more have questions or remarks about, for sure, whaterver you, personnaly, can prefer.

 

To conclude, apart those 3 problems, the install was perfect, all my hardware and directshow components recognized instant, and DVb started and worked fine at the first execution. No other soft i can know (and i used a lot) is able to such a performance. Thanks and congratulation.

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however, your transponder lists have been taken into consideration, in the framework of a general solution. See here:

http://www.DVBViewer.info/forum/index.php?...st&p=159644

Sorry, but it looks the contrary:

http://www.DVBViewer.info/forum/index.php?...amp;hl=esperado

Look for the Lars answer and the thread you quote is 4 month later, the problem was still here !

Sorry to say, but that's a very silly question. Nobody here cares whether you are German, French, Chinese, Eskimo or Extraterrestrian. ;) It just doesn't matter. We are software developers in a global village, no politicians or world war veterans.

It was a joke, i thought it was obvious. There is a german file in the transponder list, not the french one i had provided. The joke was to underline. This time, i think i succeed, being rude ;-) Will see.

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From the XML file attached by you in the other thread:

 

- <country name="France - All Régions" offset="167">

seems to be correct, but

 

<country name="Germany - All Regions" offset="125">

is wrong.

 

TransEdit provides a general solution that covers all kinds of frequency offsets and enables users to create their own DVB-T transponder lists, but obviously you didn't follow my link / overlooked the main point / didn't understand it. So may I help you a bit by quoting from the manual? :)

 

Finally an example how the blind scanner can be used for DVB-T. If you are living in France, TransEdit will probably find no channels at all with the standard "Europe" transponder list, because all French DVB-T frequencies are shifted by 167 KHz. However, using the blind scanner with the following parameter ranges should do the trick:

 

Frequencies: 474.167-858.167:8

 

Bandwidths: 2

All you have to do is to create an empty transponder list (File -> New List -> Terrestrial), select it, click "Blind Scan", enter these two lines, click "Scan" and TransEdit will automatically generate the according entries for your region. Or, if you are too lazy to perform these steps, you may use the attached generic transponderlist, since TransEdit stores / reads the blind scan parameters in / from the INI file.

 

It was a joke, i thought it was obvious.

The board provides smilies for making it obvious, in case you didn't know... ;) particularly recommendable for bad jokes.

 

I've a page about your DVBViewer on my site

So, instead of joking around here, rather help us to inform people about that.

DVB_T_France.ini

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TransEdit provides a general solution

 

I do not think a pretty complicated procedure for a lambda user is a good solution. People want just to choose their country inside the software, and find automaticaly all the channels. TV like.

As there is some other HTPC communities encontering the same problem, it it not difficullt at all to list all together the correct frequencies for all the country or the most importants , and provide files for them with the sofware itself.

 

Transedit can be a good tool for DVB users to can provide , update and share files from their country. This can be done automaticaly via internet in both sides , dvb sending results each time a scan is donne, via the soft or transedit for an example ?

 

As a developper specialised in ergonomy, i have some suggestions on how to improove interface, specialy OSD. As an example, i recieved recently a mail about Weather. Because i do not use this feature, i forgot how it was working and despite my attemps to figure it out , i was unable to set the wheater working in a reasonable laps of time (not even found it in the menus, i was not too much interested too ;-)...

 

Little details, but may-be one of the reason why DVB do not have the leadership in htpc world, despite he is far away the best of all, incuding M$$.

 

Just my 2 cents.

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You will find here:

http://www.esperado.dyndns.tv/fr/component...ace/Itemid,102/

 

A complete list of ini files for EACH french TNT emiters. feel free to download and use.

I hope, this time, you will do something with it, like include-it in the transponder files of the prog, or, at least, put a file link "sticky" in your french forum.

 

Your customers works for you. Please, work for your customers ;-)

 

An other remark: The path of the transponder's folder had changed without any warning in the last version.

It is now in:

c:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\CMUV\DVBViewer\Transponders

I do not like it at all.

Please realize that I had spend hours to figure out why my files, modified in the original transponder folder wich is still here, were not read anymore ;-(

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An other remark: The path of the transponder's folder had changed without any warning in the last version.

It is now in:

c:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\CMUV\DVBViewer\Transponders

I do not like it at all.

 

It has not really changed. Since quite some time you can choose at the installation where you want to have your settings: in the program folder, in all users settings or in the user settings. This the UserMode 0, 1 or 2 that you can change in Usermode.ini. What may have changed but I'm not sure is the default option taken by the installer. Maybe someting that the installer could do (and that I don't think is doing ATM) is to read the usermode.ini when reinstalling over/ upgrading an existing version and the use the same setting. This would avoid confusing users that click through without understanding all those mysterious questions asked by the installer ;)

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esperado is rigth, the place of the transponder lists change in one of the last versions. It was saved in DVBViewer folder no matter what user mode was used. Now it's saved in the correct configuration folder. So that's more of a bug fix ;)

 

The installer is checking the usermode and set's it as default for a new install. This is also a very recent feature.

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