takuya Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 Hello we are a group of users who use DVBViewer for the japanese skyperfectv pay tv service! we greatly appreciate your work, sadly neither the japanese channel names nor the EPG are displayed correctly could you please help us as we'd really like to use this great piece of software! please tell me if you need more information Quote Link to comment
Lars_MQ Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 Actually there is no japanese character table in the DVB Definitions (see ETSI EN 300 468 Section A.2). I tried to find some informations about which text encoding these channels use, but didn't find anything meaningful... Quote Link to comment
takuya Posted September 20, 2009 Author Share Posted September 20, 2009 According to the ARIB specifications it is plain UTF-8! Quote Link to comment
Tjod Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 Actually there is no japanese character table in the DVB Definitions (see ETSI EN 300 468 Section A.2). In Japan thy use ISDB instead of DVB. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_Se...al_Broadcasting Quote Link to comment
Lars_MQ Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 According to the ARIB specifications it is plain UTF-8! no it isn't, that I'm pretty sure of. take a look at the examples there are waaaay to many chars of the <128 values. It can't be Unicode (UTF-16) either because then MTV or HD would never appear... According to ARIB B24 Vol1 Part 2 Chapter 7 it is something completly different. I haven't understood what they describe there but it does sure look impressive (especially figure 7-2 )... I did several tests with the sample from here, but I'm not even sure if I should be able to see anything in Japanese or if I have to install some font or have to change my windows settings. I can see the chinese text in Unicode without having to change any settings... Quote Link to comment
takuya Posted September 21, 2009 Author Share Posted September 21, 2009 oh you are right! this charset is commonly called ARIB8 you might wanna take a look at this implementation here maybe it helps you to implement it thank you for your effort Quote Link to comment
takuya Posted September 26, 2009 Author Share Posted September 26, 2009 sorry, i didn't upload it properly please have a look at this arib8.zip Quote Link to comment
Lars_MQ Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 Thanks. I'll have to study the code and translate it. This might take quite a while. Quote Link to comment
takuya Posted October 10, 2009 Author Share Posted October 10, 2009 Don't wanna be a pain in your neck, but could you make any progress with the ARIB8 decoding? Quote Link to comment
Filb Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 Any progress on ARIB8 decoding? Quote Link to comment
hackbart Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 Hi, to be honest i did not have had a look on it yet. To speed things up I would really like to have some recordings with audio/video in it. I think it is similar to the IDSB (partially since Brazil does not use katakana/hiragana) i added end of 2010 Christian Quote Link to comment
Filb Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 Hi, to be honest i did not have had a look on it yet. To speed things up I would really like to have some recordings with audio/video in it. I think it is similar to the IDSB (partially since Brazil does not use katakana/hiragana) i added end of 2010 Christian Thanks for your reply!Great you're still considering adding support, much appreciated! Please check your private messages for the recorded TS file. Quote Link to comment
Lars_MQ Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 I don't think a audio/video recording will help, cause the stuff is in the EIT stream. Maybe the procedure from here: http://www.DVBViewer...g-channelnames/ (SI recordings) is better suited... I hate to be a spoilsport but I see a problem: It seems some chars(?) are defined as graphics and this will never work with the EPG in the DVBViewer which is internally based on UTF-8 encoded strings... Quote Link to comment
Filb Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 (edited) The EIT stream is included in the recording file. (See my private message.) Yes, there are a few special graphical characters like musical notes, airplanes, or circled numbers. Their occurrence is very rare however, and it would be fine to just replace them by a placeholder. The majority of graphical characters do exist in the UTF-8 charset, so a list of the corresponding (hex) values can eventually be created. Edited April 2, 2011 by Filb Quote Link to comment
Lars_MQ Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 There you are It seems to work in my test transedit. Quote Link to comment
Filb Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 (edited) Wow, that was quick. Thanks!! The only strange text I can see is Service 33412 (2NMX|ÝÃ×¹HD), but not sure what that is or should be. The rest looks perfectly fine to me! Good work! Edited April 3, 2011 by Filb Quote Link to comment
Lars_MQ Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 Well there WILL be problems with the channel names, cause channel names will not be decoded. The last big problem on our way to unicode... Quote Link to comment
Filb Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 Alright, shouldn't be a problem, then! Quote Link to comment
hackbart Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 If you have a chance to record a stream with some subtitles - this would be nice. The one you provided us does not seem to contain them. Christian Quote Link to comment
Filb Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 Sure, I will send you one in a moment. Quote Link to comment
Filb Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 (edited) After installing the latest beta of the Recording Service, Japanese EPG works almost perfectly. Great work! From what I can see, all titles are displaying correctly, and while most of descriptions look okay, there are a few that have decoding errors: But maybe they're just related to the graphical characters. Thanks! Edited April 5, 2011 by Filb Quote Link to comment
Lars_MQ Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 If you could provide another dump with the defictive epg, I'll take a closer look at it. Even if it's graphical stuff, it shouldn't be visible... Does it only happen on certain channels or is there no pattern recognizable? Quote Link to comment
Filb Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 (edited) It happens on different channels, but not randomly. Daily shows with the same or similar EPG descriptions have the same error every day. Here's another one: 「Dr.煎Γ龕が・蟀ｒ起点Ｋ東回蠻地球魄貅E各地麟乳類凌焚情娵・楽君語袰忽 第７５話E黌胼・ It should look like this: 「Dr.ダーウィン」がアフリカを起点に東回りで地球を一周。各地のほ乳類の進化のふしぎを楽しく語ります。第75話「ウンピョウ」 How do I obtain a dump of the defective EPG? Edited April 5, 2011 by Filb Quote Link to comment
Lars_MQ Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 you can program a manual timer (one minute) on a channel with the epg problem and select whole transponder in the timer dialog. BTW a single E means not recognized char/word/symbol Quote Link to comment
hackbart Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 I had rewritten the Arib Decoder (multiple times) and now i suppose it works. We "only" have to clean it up and implement it into the DVBViewer... @Filb: I suppose this is the first line of the conversation inside the Pokemon stream you provided us (190, 239) はなうた (170, 299) (鼻歌) Christian Quote Link to comment
Filb Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 (edited) Wow, nice! Yes, that's the first line. And you even got the small Furigana above, cool. I found this list of graphical characters: http://www.dkuug.dk/.../docs/n3341.pdf (for both ARIB and UCS codes) And this site: http://sites.google....e-mapping-table (which has UCS codes for ALL characters, but probably not recommended, because: "This table maps to many Unicode code points for proposed, not-yet-encoded characters.") Hope that helps! Edited April 6, 2011 by Filb Quote Link to comment
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