duja Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Hey, How about trying to help the XBMC guys integrating DVBViewer RS to XBMC PVR feature?: http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=HOW-TO:Watch_TV_in_XBMC XBMC rocks but lacks the support for a good tv solution. I believe DVBViewer would fit in like the hand in the glove here. /D Quote Link to comment
McenterFreak Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Would be a lot better that DVBViewer developers look to XBMC and learn how to make a good user experience, and build this experience into DVBViewer. This would result in a (as always with DVBViewer) rock solid solution. I didn't have any crashes with DVBViewer in the last 2-3 years, despite I have installed all new versions, including Beta versions, without any backup, which is fantastic! Quote Link to comment
bogdan1980 Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 XBMC is crap, i cant stand it:P. I do not know why people love XBMC and Boxee. But it's just me. Quote Link to comment
duja Posted November 8, 2011 Author Share Posted November 8, 2011 I have used DVBViewer for the last 4-5 years or so and I can easily say that it is the best DVB software out there, no doubt. But from my experience XBMC has a gui that is solid and works really great. Combining that with DVBViewer would be awesome. Quote Link to comment
JoeyDK Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Its the feature that XBMC needs... which got nothing to do with the development on DVBViewer. But... I bought DVBViewer (and I haven't bought much software) and this is what I miss in my XBMC installation. I doubt im the only one. I believe this could be good business. my 2 cents Quote Link to comment
jakub Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 (edited) pvr is coming in next release after xbmc 11.0 eden, it's pretty much stable in it's current pvr branch. I would love to see integration with DVBViewer and recording service. Edited December 19, 2011 by jakub Quote Link to comment
Lars_MQ Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Yes it would be nice, we just have to find somebody who can write the plugin for xbmc. Any takers? Quote Link to comment
MDHD Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I dont think this is a good idea, because xbmc development is very slow. for two years they are focusing to have xbmc on tablets and smartphones and to have a lot of kitsch which doesnt work. there are so many plugins, but no plugin works as it should work. dharma or pre-eden. you never know, when xbmc will freeze on plugins. i'm now using xbmc for all stuff, but only because it is very complicated to make DVBViewer playing all content. i should install a lot of codecs, and in crappy windows, and the codecs are conflicting with microsoft codecs. also the merrit settings are not helping for DVBViewer. also there is no possibility to have normal HD visualisation for music or radio. thats why i'm using xbmc. xbmc is for movies and music ok. there is no audio HD bitstreaming for movies and no exclusive mode for music. so i dont unterstand why xbmc. it would be better, to make for DVBViewer new OSD engine (with some effects) and to ban microsoft codecs. it is more less to install the codecs for DVBViewer than to configure xbmc for external player (mpc-hc). for over 10 years i'm waiting for a solution i can watch tv, listen to music (audiophile mode) and watch movies with subtitle DXVA. there is on the market no software of this kind. and i think that only DVBViewer could be such as software. DVBViewer only needs a new osd engine and better navigation. such as native neutrino CL plugin, also to have the possibility to make settings with the remote and not with the mouse. thats all... Quote Link to comment
riviera Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 (edited) I think DVBViewer never works integrated in XBMC like a plugin or addon. In this thread (seen from third message below) I asked them about this possibility. Edited December 19, 2011 by riviera Quote Link to comment
PstryPtak Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 The best solution would be (my dream) to provide Recording Service for Linux. I have a desktop PC with Linux that works around the clock. It would be great to have all the time available stream server for DVBViewers on all PC in my LAN... Quote Link to comment
newlynx Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Personally I use DVBViewer (the best 15E ever spent in software) for satellite receiveing and XBMC for movies and TV series, but I would like a plugin for the intergration of the recording service and XBMC. I know that this is not likely to happen because it requires a lot of effort. So, the other approach is to make DVBViewer look more a media center software. There are some plugins for movies or TV series but I think there is a lot of imrovement space there. Quote Link to comment
numa Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 +1 for a plugin for XBMC Quote Link to comment
swordoski Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 XBMC already working very god with DVBViewer Recording Service as a Backend. But i should be nice to use the XBMC PVR function. Maybe could add DVBViewer Recording Service added to this list http://tinyurl.com/877euwe Quote Link to comment
numa Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 DVBViewer Recording Service doesn't work with XBMC Eden There is a problem in XBMC with upnp. Quote Link to comment
riviera Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 (edited) DVBViewer Recording Service doesn't work with XBMC Eden There is a problem in XBMC with upnp. XBMC Eden Beta 3 works fine with Upnp Recording Service again. PD: you have to install the last version of Recording Service. Edited February 29, 2012 by riviera Quote Link to comment
numa Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Yeah cool !! It works great !! Quote Link to comment
duja Posted March 18, 2012 Author Share Posted March 18, 2012 DVBViewer is easily the best TV software out there when it comes to stability, support for devices and features. The devs are also very good at supporting their software and taking it forward when it comes to new features. Just look at the RS, that will probably be the standard backend for the DVBViewer software in a few years. The standard DVBViewer software will only consist of a GUI with RS as backend. Users will be able to use TV and recordings on their TV, computer, and mobile devices, with RS handling all that. I believe DVBViewer should focus harder on a good backend like RS where they can build support, for tv-cards, features etc. and then have a good API where frontends like XBMC and DVBViewer "viewer" can communicate against. Take XBMC for example, it has the best integration for all your media like videos, music (even a spotify plugin) and even great plugins that lets you interact with online services like IMDB and media companies that let you stream content from their portals. So, to end this post, take a lok on the integration with XBMC and put some effort to integrate DVBViewer RS features within XBMC. Having TV and EPG would be a great start /D Quote Link to comment
swordoski Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Yeah! XBMC Live-Tv with DVBViewer RS as backend Quote Link to comment
McenterFreak Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Yeah! XBMC Live-Tv with DVBViewer RS as backend Yeah!!!! A rock solid Backend (RS) with a buggy Frontend (XBMC). Who in the world could do the support for this combination? I wote for making a pressure on the DVBViewer developers, to make DVBViewer more XBMC alike. The developers do a lot of work on the internals of RS and DVBViewer (thanks for that, thats why it is so staple), but nothing on the look and feel of the product, except in the latest RS, that got a shine up in the web interface. I would hope that Hackbard, and his friends, now would look to the user interface of DVBViewer, and integrate WAF into their future development plans. I know i can skin etc. but we need a complete integrated Media Center, with excelent support for all our media, with a stunning user interface:-) Quote Link to comment
duja Posted March 19, 2012 Author Share Posted March 19, 2012 Yeah!!!! A rock solid Backend (RS) with a buggy Frontend (XBMC). Who in the world could do the support for this combination? Dunno where the statement of a buggy interface comes from, clearly something that you have done a survey on... Why invent the wheel again by putting time and effort on the GUI when XBMC has all that plus plugin support and the whole kit. Quote Link to comment
McenterFreak Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Dunno where the statement of a buggy interface comes from, clearly something that you have done a survey on... Why invent the wheel again by putting time and effort on the GUI when XBMC has all that plus plugin support and the whole kit. Anyway, we will not succeed. It seems that The developers don't read thiS:-( Quote Link to comment
duja Posted March 20, 2012 Author Share Posted March 20, 2012 They read this, but they are very quiet about it. We'll see if they are able give some comments on this in their OWN forum. Quote Link to comment
esackbauer Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 In the meantime I use XBMC and DVBViewer side by side. You can automate it with EventGhost or LM Remote Keymap. If both applications are loaded, a switch between them is done in <1 second. So I really don't miss an integration, XMBC as media center, DVBViewer for TV. I even have a small 7" USB Monitor on the side and can switch to SqueezePlay for playing music only. Quote Link to comment
riviera Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 In the meantime I use XBMC and DVBViewer side by side. You can automate it with EventGhost or LM Remote Keymap. If both applications are loaded, a switch between them is done in <1 second. So I really don't miss an integration, XMBC as media center, DVBViewer for TV. I even have a small 7" USB Monitor on the side and can switch to SqueezePlay for playing music only. This solution works fine but only works on a Windows PC. The integration with xbmc would allow use DVBViewer on devices like Apple TV, Linux pc or Mac. I know nothing works better than the combination DVBServer (integrated into RecService) + DVBViewer client in another Win pc. A client for other platforms would be a dream. Quote Link to comment
duja Posted April 16, 2012 Author Share Posted April 16, 2012 Any comments Mr Devs? Quote Link to comment
McenterFreak Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 As i said: "Anyway, we will not succeed. It seems that The developers don't read thiS:-(" Quote Link to comment
Lars_MQ Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 http://www.DVBViewer.tv/forum/topic/47467-integration-with-xbmc-pvr/page__view__findpost__p__352284 Quote Link to comment
krasno Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Would be a lot better that DVBViewer developers look to XBMC and learn how to make a good user experience, and build this experience into DVBViewer. This would result in a (as always with DVBViewer) rock solid solution. I didn't have any crashes with DVBViewer in the last 2-3 years, despite I have installed all new versions, including Beta versions, without any backup, which is fantastic! old post, but you are right!! I use DVBViewer for same reasons, it is simply the best software, but I have eyes.. XBMC looks great, but I refuse to use more than one software for HTPC... to use two from different developers will result in problems. Trust me.. What I never have understood is why it is so terrible to do something about the WAF in DVBViewer.. and I am also sure most people wouldn't mind payning more than the 15Euro... if that is the problem? Quote Link to comment
babesumitra Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 (edited) I do not understand why the programmers of ignoring the wishes of the users. Why Can not create a plugin for XBMC? I'm pretty sure many here would pay more than 15 EUR. We all expect a response .... so I'm just saying ... PUSH Edited May 26, 2012 by babesumitra Quote Link to comment
McenterFreak Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 XBMC Eden Beta 3 works fine with Upnp Recording Service again. PD: you have to install the last version of Recording Service. Do you know if it support subtitles? Quote Link to comment
newlynx Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 XBMC works fine with the Recording Service (through upnp) but you cannot record or use EPG. It's a simple solution but not a full one. Quote Link to comment
ladeezman Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 Do you know if it support subtitles? Yes it supports subtitles, turn them on in Recording Service Configuration, then you can turn them on or off in XBMC Audio settings. Quote Link to comment
McenterFreak Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 Yes it supports subtitles, turn them on in Recording Service Configuration, then you can turn them on or off in XBMC Audio settings. Thanks, i will try it Quote Link to comment
A600 Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 (edited) A little teaser of XBMC running a DVBViewer Recording Service PVR: Edited August 15, 2012 by A600 Quote Link to comment
VinoRosso Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 It is possbile to watch livetv with xbmc and recording service? With EPG? Could u explain how u managed that? I thought thats not possible.... Quote Link to comment
A600 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 It is possbile to watch livetv with xbmc and recording service? Of course it's possible if you code the PVR It isn't ready for a release but someday it will be. Quote Link to comment
CiNcH Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 And when all the reverse engineering is done, we will have an open standard based on RTSP/RTP/RTCP , see here. It will be a complete alternative to the current Unicast TCP (and also UPnP misused for Live-TV) stuff. Or is this implementation already based on that? Quote Link to comment
numa Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 sorry but not being already very good in English, I'm downright no German. Could you tell us more? Quote Link to comment
Tjod Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 The current Unicast device (TCP) will be removed in future versions of Recording Service and DVBViewer. And will be replaced with a RTSP device (UDP) [SAT>IP] Quote Link to comment
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