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The problem is: in Russia the first national air multiplex (10 TV channels and 3 radio programmes) is broadcasted through DVB-T2 in Multi-PLP mode, in order to let some channels inserting local news and advertising. However, it seems DVBViewer is supported only Single-PLP mode, as the channels of the multiplex can be found only partly. In the same time, through the programme developed by the manufacturer of the tuner (Beholder), all the channels of the multiplex are available for watching/listening and recording. Could you solve this issue?
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Playing two audio tracks simultaneously (intended for audio description)
Griga replied to Roberto Lombino's topic in Suggestions & Ideas
There won't be a pure DVBViewer based solution. Modifying the playback system for mixing audio tracks is very expensive. With other words, the cost-value ratio is very bad. If you count on it, you will wait forever. On the other side, there are several options for Media Server based solutions. Partly they already work without any changes. The DVBViewer Media Server provides DVBViewer capabilities in its web interface, which means, there is a kind of web site in your browser that provides your channel list, EPG, a list of your recordings and other media files etc. Of course you can schedule, start and stop recordings. And you can even play TV or files in your browser. Since browsers are not able to play DVB formats, the Media Server must transcode video and audio to another format before delivering it. It uses FFmpeg for this task. FFmpeg is an extremely powerful freeware tool, called "the swiss army knife of media conversion". One can do almost everything with it. I'm sure that it can be configured to mix audio tracks. This means, most likely it will be possible to provide a receiver mix solution if TV or files delivered by the Media Server are played in the browser. Of course you may also use other clients for playing these transcoded streams. For example DVBViewer. It allows to store the stream addresses (URLs) as channel list entries. By the way: A big advantage of the Media Server is that it can be used on remote computers, which means on all PCs and mobile devices in your home network. You are not glued anymore to the PC where your DVB stuff is installed. Some people even use it over the internet, e.g. for checking recordings when they are out at work. Another option that uses the Media Server and the VLC playback engine is UPnP (Universal Plug and Play). The Media Server is a UPnP server. VLC is a UPnP client. That means, the VLC lists all media provided by the server in a kind of tree structure. You can select TV and radio channels, recordings and media files there, and the VLC will play it quite happily, of course with mixed audio tracks, if it is launched with the command line mentioned above. This already works now - I've just tried it. The third option is a playlist download. The Media Server web interface allows to download the channel list or parts of it or a list of recordings etc. as playlist in M3U format. Usually the browser opens a download dialog in this case, asking what it shall do with it. You can save it somewhere on disk or pass it directly to an application that shall handle it. I've just tried to let Firefox pass it to a VLC batch file with the following content (please note %1 at the end of the line). start "" "C:\Program Files (x86)\VideoLAN\VLC\vlc.exe" --sout-all --sout #display %1 It works well. VLC opens the playlist, displays it, so you can select the contained elements and immediately starts to play the first one. Of course with mixed audio tracks. Now some words about unwanted audio tracks that become part of the mix. They can be excluded in the VLC Audio Track menu. However, it may be a bit cumbersome to do it again and again. This can be solved in DVBViewer. Since the Media Server does not provide a channel editor and scanner, DVBViewer has to be used to configure the server's channel list and favourites list. It is possible to delete the unwanted audio tracks and tick the "Don't update automatically" checkbox in the channel editor. This prevents DVBViewer and the Media Server from automatically adding other audio tracks again. However, this option entails disadvantages, so it may be worth looking for a better solution. This is my concept so far. An open question is the accessibility of the web interface and the Media Server in general for blind people, due to lack of experience. I don't know if there are already blind people using it. Maybe some enhancements are required. This would depend on your feedback. -
Mediaserver 2 und TELESTAR DIGIBIT TWIN
mangerio replied to mangerio's topic in DVBViewer Media Server
Vielen Dank für die Antwort! Ich wusste nicht, daß man den zweiten Tuner als zweites Gerät hinzufügen muss. Jetzt klappt's auch mit dem Recording Service, zwei Kanäle gleichzeitig aufzunehmen! -
I have 3 PCs using DVBViewer, there is 1 PC connected with lan run smooth on starting up DVB, but the other 2 always stuck in "Completing Initialization" bar for few minustes. All 3 PCs are using similar config and same setting. How can I solve this problem?? Thank you very much!!
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<entry name="UseDVBViewerMenu">0</entry> Ist angekommen. Dann werd ich mal abwarten, was craig_s dazu sagt.
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Nö. Frag mal @craig_s. Er ist der Spezialist, und bei ihm hat es offenbar funktioniert. Außerdem kannst du überprüfen, ob der Eintrag <entry name="UseDVBViewerMenu">0</entry> tatsächlich in der Section "General" der setup.xml deines DVBViewers angekommen ist.
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Bei mir bleibt das Menü unverändert im DVBViewer-Style. Hast du ne Idee, ob man da noch an irgend welchen Schrauben drehen kann/muss ? Hab aber keine Bisswunden am Hals, und Sonnenlicht vertrag ich auch.
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Das habe ich mir jetzt "in vivo" angeschaut. Das neue Timeline-Design zeigt zusätzliche Informationen (das Genre farbkodiert, den Untertitel von Sendungen). Man muss sich jedoch darüber klar sein, dass es auf den anderen Seite Information reduziert. Durch die höheren Felder für die Anzeige von Sendungstitel und -untertitel passen weniger Zeilen in ein Fenster gegebener Höhe. Wo man vorher 11 Sender auf einen Blick sah, sieht man mit dem neuen Design nur 7. Weiterhin zeigt das alte Design durch pfeilartige Felder an, ob eine Sendung über den Rand der Timeline hinausragt. Das bietet das neue Design nicht mehr. Dafür ergänzt es die Anfangszeit, was aber bei kürzeren Sendungen den Sendungstitel unkenntlich macht, weil dieser abgeschnitten wird oder sogar ganz verschwindet. Wie auch immer es letztendlich ausgeht - es wird womöglich nicht jedem gefallen. Ich denke jedoch, dass man den Code so geschickt organisieren kann, dass er per Tweak die Umschaltung zwischem altem und neuem Timeline-Design ermöglicht. Die Posts zum Thema "Dunkles DVBViewer-Design" habe ich in ein separates Thema ausgelagert.
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Sollte es, und wird es hier auch unter Windows 7. Deine Vorliebe für dunkle Designs scheint sich auch darin auszudrücken, dass du offenbar nachtaktiv bist...
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Wenn man unter Windows_10/1809 das dunkle Design auswählt, wird da ja auch das Menü dunkel angezeigt. Wenn ich im Tweaker jetzt > DVBViewer-Menüstil verwenden< ausschalte, sollte das Menü dann nicht auch dunkel dargestellt werden ?
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Der Trick bei einem nicht-schwarzen Hintergrund birgt noch ein anderes sehr entscheidendes Kriterium wie man im Bild oben sehen kann: Elemente / Buttons die aus Versehen immernoch Schwarz gezeichnet werden (hier 'Beitrag melden') können entdeckt werden.
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Playing two audio tracks simultaneously (intended for audio description)
Patryk F replied to Roberto Lombino's topic in Suggestions & Ideas
It is sad but true that I must agree with Griga's last post. Although My request for that would be second on the list, we are still in the minority, and that is why I understand Griga's point absolutely. On the other hand however, if we can find an out of the box solution for supporting this type of AD, that might eventually increase a number of licensed users, thus may increase the income. Of course, we have no guarantee that it will actually happen. Moving forward to the more pleasant, technical side, I have checked the VLC trick (at least on a ts file) and it of course works :-). anyway, it is worth checking the document attached above since it includes nearly all variants of AD that may be embedded into the TS. In my opinion: if it is possible, I would appreciate the Receiver mix support in the future anyway. It is simply a matter of convenience and simplicity. While we are technical geeks and the vlc trick seems relatively easy, it might be not that easy for one without the appropriate knowledge of configuring all that stuff. It does not have to be a priority, dedicated feature. -
A package of suggestions regarding the Visually impaired mode of DVBViewer Pro
Patryk F posted a topic in Suggestions & Ideas
Dear DVBViewer team, First of all I would like to thank You for a great software like DVBViewer is. I use it everyday and recommend it for every blind person which wants near fully accessible television solution. At this point I would also like to apologise for any potential mistakes, since it is my first post here. I am a bit shy in other words ;) I have packaged some suggestions for future development of DVBViewer. I assumed that putting them together would be more practical than dispersing them between apropriate threads, since they have one thing in common. all suggestions listed are from the visually impaired perspective, so are valid for the visually impaired interface enabled. 1. May I ask you to reverse the old channel editor/channel scan windows separated as in V 5.X? It may be as an option, it does not have to be default. The new look of editor/scanner maybe seems more practical, but it lacks some functionalities present in the old separated scanner as well as editor. • Scanner part now does not offer a "none" option when choosing a transponder list, allowing for a quick blind-scan inside DVBViewer without opening transedit. It means that you must select something from the list so doing a quick blindscan is not possible. • Editor has no "DiSeqc" option, so if I am correcting the setup, i cannot change the position from 7.0 to 7.1 or 7.2 for instance on the fly, during listening and satellite correction. I cannot also set the position to "none" if I don't want to send commands. 2. It is not possible toread RDS when in Visually Impaired mode. I propose that the RDS text as well as RT and RT+ be integrated into the same read-only edit field as EPG, with a separation of 2 or 3 blank lines if both are present (as on astra 19.2 E). Alternatively, You may create two read-only fields between which you switch with a TAB and shift+tab key. 3. When using visually impaired mode, the clock on a status bar (between bitrate and channel name) is irritating. May I ask for replacing it with either video bitrate (which in VI mode is available only from DVB source) or signal strength? 4. When in VI mode, Could you please disable the auto-muting feature? When entering channel list editor or epg or any window of it's type, in the VI mode audio is muted, so to use epg while still listening you have to change window, press m or whatever to unmute, and proceed with an epg or whatever. Seems quite irritating. 5. Since version 6.something, DVBViewer PRO presents the visually impaired mode window with the "Highlighted" text attribute. While it is generally helpful to read the text in this way for Low Vision users, for some reason Jaws screenreader sometimes reads unexpected things like playback time elapsed, since it is constantly changing. 6. Last but not least, Could you please make the signal strength measure more appropriate (if a device returns it)? For some reason, DVBViewer pro shows the signal strength based probably on RF gain parameter, not by actual signal to noise ratio or signal link margin. I use two TBS products (5990 and 6903) as well as the RTL-2832 based device for DVB-t. While it may be problematic for 2832 to return valid Signal Strength, TBS manages to do so. What is more, DVBViewer GE is able to show a more intuitive signal measure. Thanks in advance for any feedback from You Patryk Faliszewski, Poland. -
Playing two audio tracks simultaneously (intended for audio description)
Griga replied to Roberto Lombino's topic in Suggestions & Ideas
1. I don't understand. 2. Please follow the link to the VLC forum that I have provided above. Someone posted: I have just tried. It works. So you can still select the audio tracks that you want to hear. 3. I think it should not be necessary to do additional and quite laborious programming just to fulfil a single request. Up to now you are the only one. You don't want to spend 19 Euro for a DVBViewer add-on, but you expect us to spend hours and days with implementing what you want? I don't like this kind of demanding behaviour. Please note that I'm dealing with your request due to private interest in my spare time. There is no contract forcing me to do it. -
Playing two audio tracks simultaneously (intended for audio description)
Roberto Lombino replied to Roberto Lombino's topic in Suggestions & Ideas
Well, this could theoretically be a solution, but: 1. VLC has its own processing which can’t be turned off in a simple way. 2. As you will see in my sample recording, there are often more than two audio tracks in one TV channel and in that case your idea won’t help at all. 3. I think it shouldn’t be necessary to buy one more product (in this case, the media server) just because of the audio description format. -
Das verstehe ich nicht. Das Ding kann zwei seperate Satsignale parallel verteilen, also sollten 2 Aufnahmen möglich sein. Dazu muss im DMS/ Recordingservice 2 RTSP Geräte konfiguriert werden. Siehe dazu hier und hier.
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In manchen Konstellationen macht es durchaus Sinn, nur die Systemlautstärke zu verwenden (Htpc). Um mit dem DVBViewer nur die Systemlautstärke zu steuern musst du deine rechts und links Tasten den entsprechenden Cases in der command.vbs zuweisen. Du solltest dann vorher die Lautstärke des DVBViewers auf 100% stellen, da sie danach durch die links und rechts Tasten nicht mehr verstellt werden können (auch das Mausrad solltest du deaktivieren). Folgendes einfach in die Command.vbs eintragen und unter Optionen/Eingaben die entsprechenden Befehle eintragen und die Tasten für Links und Rechts diesen zuweisen. Case 55555 'Systemlautstärke hoch If osd.isVisible Or windowmanager.isoverlay Then SendCommand(2100) 'Osd rechts Else Set WshShell = CreateObject("WScript.Shell") WshShell.SendKeys(chr(&hAF)) End If Case 55556 'Systemlautstärke runter If osd.isVisible Or windowmanager.isoverlay Then SendCommand(2000) 'Osd links Else Set WshShell = CreateObject("WScript.Shell") WshShell.SendKeys(chr(&hAE)) End If
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Schaue Dir bitte die Windows Firewall Einstellungen an. Es sollte das Private Profil aktiviert sein. Die benötigten Ausnahmen werden nur für das Private Profil erzeugt. In der Support.zip steht: Installed Antivirus Products -------------------------------------------------- Windows Defender Private Firewall Profile is active Public Firewall Profile is active Hier ist jetzt nicht klar welches Profil aktiv ist?!? So schaut es bei mir aus:
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Playing two audio tracks simultaneously (intended for audio description)
Griga replied to Roberto Lombino's topic in Suggestions & Ideas
That's interesting. VLC is no DirectShow based player like DVBViewer, but uses its own built-in playback system. So I've searched the web for a possibility to play different audio tracks simultaneously in VLC. It cannot be configured in the user interface, but by using a command line: start "" "C:\Program Files (x86)\VideoLAN\VLC\vlc.exe" --sout-all --sout #display More information can be found here: https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?t=145140 I made a batch file named VLC.bat that only contains the command line above, which is suitable for the 32 bit version. After launching VLC with this batch file it plays all audio tracks that are contained in a TS file simultaneously. And even more: If I give VLC the address of a TV live stream delivered by the DVBViewer Media Server, it also plays all audio tracks simultaneously. So the best solution that we can get with available means seems to be a combination of the DVBViewer Media Server and VLC. You can buy the DVBViewer Media Server for 19 Euro. It is a background application running as Windows service. It has no user interface on its own, but provides a web interface in the browser and is designed for background recording and delivering live streams and files to clients like the VLC. However, this solution still requires some thoughts about how to make it usable for someone who is blind... -
Playing two audio tracks simultaneously (intended for audio description)
Roberto Lombino replied to Roberto Lombino's topic in Suggestions & Ideas
I’ve recorded a piece of a TV series from the 1st channel of our public television with all audio tracks. You can download it here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/eo72a725ym0mdul/11-14_20-09-15_CT 1 HD T2 (AAC%2Ccze)_Rapl%2C Tichá voda - 11 13 Zdá se%2C že drsnější než Krušné hory může být jen Kuneš. Detektivní série s Hynkem Čermákem v hlavní roli. Dále hrají L. Příkazký%2C A. Pyško%2C L. Žáčk.ts?dl=1 Besides that, here’s a link to a document with technical data of our AD. It’s in French and English. Everything should be the same except for the language of the AD track in brackets, which in France is (qad), whereas in the Czech Republic it’s simply (cze), the same as the main track. http://www.cgvforum.fr/cgv_kds/pub/specifications/CSA_Signalling-Profile_v3.3.pdf If you find a way to implement it, please leave also an option to play the AD track separately as it’s now, because sometimes, due to a technical error f.ex. on satellite, a track can be signed as the AD receiver mix, although it’s not. -
Ich verwende einen TELESTAR DIGIBIT TWIN Tuner mit dem Recoding Service. Funktioniert gut, ich kann aber immer nur einen Kanal aufnehmen, nicht zwei gleichzeitig. Kann ich mit dem DVB-Mediaserver 2 am DIGIBIT TWIN zwei Kanäle gleichzeitig aufzeichnen?
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Hallo zusammen, bin wirklich seit Jahren sehr glücklich mit DVBV+DMS und vermisse fast gar nichts. Eine Sache ist mir eingefallen, die ggf. hilfreich sein könnte: Wenn aufgrund der Auto-Timer neue Aufnahmen programmiert wurden, wird in der Weboberfläche die Möglichkeit geboten, diese entstandenen Aufnahmen zu editieren oder zu löschen. Ich fände es gut, wenn man das auch für den zugrundeliegenden Auto-Timer anbieten könnte, der die Aufnahme veranlasst hat, also 2 Symbole mehr für "Edit/Delete corresponding auto timer".
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Auch ganz nice. 👍 So heben sich auch die Zitate wieder besser vom Rest ab. Vielleicht kannst du ja das, und vor allem die Geschichte mit den leuchtend roten Buttons im "Dunklen Design" noch mal in Angriff nehmen, Christian.
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Auch mit dem neuen Build 1809-17763.134 vom 14.11. noch kein sreamimg TV mit DVBViewer. Übrigens auch nicht über den VLC-player. Also wiedr zurück auf die 1803
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Schneiden und dann Hardware-Kodierung, wie einstellen?
Webturtle replied to LampenMeister's topic in DVBViewer Video Editor
Hallo LampenMeister, ich habe nur gemeint, ob Du Sender vom DVB-S (i.d.R MPEG) vom DVB-S2 HD (i.d.R. H264) oder vom DVB-T2 HD (HEVC oder H.265) aufnimmst. Jedes dieser Systeme unterscheidet sich in der Videokomprimierung. Ich habe mich nur auf MPEG bezogen, aber für die anderen Verfahren gilt sicher ähnliches. Beim MPEG gibt es I-Frames (das vollständige Bild - https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intra-Frame) und P- bzw. B-Frames für die Veränderungen (vgl. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-Frame). Beim Film kann man ja auch nur zwischen den einzelnen Filmbildern schneiden und nicht mittendrin, sonst gibt es keinen sauberen Schnitt oder gar Kuddelmuddel. Die I-Frames sind damit vergleichbar. Zeitgenauer wirst Du wahrscheinlich nicht schneiden können. Beim TS-Doctor gibt es u.a. Buttons für die Navigation für 1 min, 1 sek, 1 i-frame. Ich habe gerade damit gestern einen mit dem DVBViewer aufgenommen Film geschnitten, da er für einen normalen Fat-32 USB-Stick zu groß war. Ich habe automatisch Vor- und Nachlauf und die Werbung entfernen lassen. Beim Abspielen hat man genau gesehen, wo die Schnitte waren. Von der Werbung hat man kein Bild gesehen, aber es hat sich ein Stück der Szene wiederholt. Die Sender wiederholen oft nach der Werbeunterbrechung zum besseren Wiedereinstieg ein Stück. Ich bin froh darüber, da manche Sender die die Sponsorenwerbung vor dem Wiederbeginn und manchmal sogar die eigentliche Sendung vor der Werbeunterbrechung mitten im Satz abwürgen. Mit der Wiederholung kann man wenigstens sicher sein, daß einem nichts entgeht. Und wenn Du diese Wiederholung auch passgenau herausschneiden willst, dürfte das ziemlich viel Arbeit machen, überhaupt erst mal den genauen Schnittpunkt zu finden. Viele Grüße Webturtle
