greycat Posted October 26, 2007 Posted October 26, 2007 Hi all, Yesterday I purchased and downloaded the DVBViewer. After a late night trying to configure it I now have some questions that I can’t find the answer for in the manual or in the forum. - Swedish language seems to be missing in the installation. What I can see on the DVB web page it’s supposed to be included. - There is no HTPC mode in the "Option" dialog window. My dialog window is different from the one in the manual on the DVB webpage. It seems to be some kind of slider there. Since I use DVBViewer on my HTPC this function is important for me. - I’m confused by the skin. Is the OSD-skin for the HTPC mode and skins for the windows GUI? - How do I install skins and plug-ins? - How do I configure more than one TV-card? I use two cards, FloppyDTV DVB-S2 (for DVB-S) and Hauppauge HVR-4000 (for DVB-T). There was no problem scanning the FloppyDTV card but how do I scan the Hauppauge for the DVB-T channels? Please help me with this questions. Today I'm a MediaPortal user but after reading about the DVBViewer I'm really curious about it. It seems to be more stable than MediaPortal. Thanks! /Per Quote
Moses Posted October 26, 2007 Posted October 26, 2007 - Some languages have been removed in the recent builds, because no one was there to update them and there were many changes. If you are able to translate the english.lng, it would be very apreciated if you do so and submit your language file to the team. - HTPC Mode is not realy necessary, because it just starts in fullscreen and doesn't allow to close DVBViewer, and caused many problems. The option is now "hidden", if you realy want to try it, you should read the tweaks.txt - There are two types of skins, yes. The OSD Skin is for OSD, that's everything you'll see in the TV Window, so the most important part for a HTPC. The normal Skin is just for the GUI, which is absolutely not necessary when building a HTCP.. They change the look of some windows and so on. - shutdown DVBViewer and copy everything into the correct sub-folder of the DVBViewer folder. GUI-Skins go to Skins, OSD Skins go to OSD Skins, Plugins go to Plugins. - Have a look at Options->Hardware if there are both cards in the list. Isn't the HVR-4000 able to recieve DVB-S, too? It should show two devices for the HVR-4000, one with tuner type "satelite" and one with "Terrestric". If you don't want the DVB-S functionality of the HVR-4000 you should set the correct one to "do not use", be sure that the "Terrestric" tuner is set to "normal". Now just open channel scan and select "Terrestric" as Reception Type and DVBViewer will use a DVB-T device to scan. I hope I helped you a bit, here. Quote
greycat Posted October 26, 2007 Author Posted October 26, 2007 Thanks for quick answer! I think this will help me a lot! I like figuring out how different software work so I will not give up . - Some languages have been removed in the recent builds, because no one was there to update them and there were many changes. If you are able to translate the english.lng, it would be very apreciated if you do so and submit your language file to the team. I was looking at the danish.ing file earlier today to see if it was something that I could easily translate. But I realise it would take so much time to do so for now I will first see if the DVBViewer is what I'm looking for. If it's stable and works like I want I will need to do a translation. Otherwise I think my family will complain. So please let me get back to you. It would be nice to help with this. - There are two types of skins, yes. The OSD Skin is for OSD, that's everything you'll see in the TV Window, so the most important part for a HTPC. The normal Skin is just for the GUI, which is absolutely not necessary when building a HTCP.. They change the look of some windows and so on. I think I was to tired yesterday. I been testing the DVBViewer today and managed to get the OSD skin to work. But I'm not shure what to do with the script folder that's included in the downloaded skins. Should this be copied to the script folder or should this be included in the skin folder? - Have a look at Options->Hardware if there are both cards in the list. Isn't the HVR-4000 able to recieve DVB-S, too? It should show two devices for the HVR-4000, one with tuner type "satelite" and one with "Terrestric". If you don't want the DVB-S functionality of the HVR-4000 you should set the correct one to "do not use", be sure that the "Terrestric" tuner is set to "normal". Now just open channel scan and select "Terrestric" as Reception Type and DVBViewer will use a DVB-T device to scan. Yes, The HVR-4000 is able to receive DVB-S to. I bought the Hauppauge card first because they would release a CI-module. But when they did it was'nt compatible with anything other but there own software. So therefor I got the FloppyDTV. I'll try all the above. Thanks again! Quote
Moses Posted October 26, 2007 Posted October 26, 2007 But I'm not shure what to do with the script folder that's included in the downloaded skins. Should this be copied to the script folder or should this be included in the skin folder? Ignore it. Only this one skin contains it and the scripts are quite old... and the skin will work without them correctly. At least I never found any difference. If you want to try some other OSD skins, there are more in the german part of the forum (sadly they are only there and discussed in german, but most of them have nice screenshots and it's not necessary to read the whole post): http://www.DVBViewer.info/forum/index.php?showtopic=17471 http://www.DVBViewer.info/forum/index.php?showtopic=21470 http://www.DVBViewer.info/forum/index.php?showtopic=21585 http://www.DVBViewer.info/forum/index.php?showtopic=16997 For this one you'll have to switch of the OSD Background in OSD Settings: http://www.DVBViewer.info/forum/index.php?showtopic=18013 http://www.DVBViewer.info/forum/index.php?showtopic=19905 Some different colors for the last one: http://www.DVBViewer.info/forum/index.php?...st&p=152460 http://www.DVBViewer.info/forum/index.php?...st&p=152476 Feel free to come back, if you have more questions. Quote
greycat Posted October 29, 2007 Author Posted October 29, 2007 Hi again! Now I'm back with a few more questions. have tested the DVBViewer for a couple of days now. All of the questions above is solved. I also beleive it's more stable than MediaPortal. And that nice. So here is my questions. - In FireDTV (If you seen it) there is a sidebar where I can choose to show the favourites with channel logos and all. In the members area there is a plugin for a sidebar. Is this the same? I have download it but unfortunately I can't get it to work. I dont even know where to put the .exe file? I've search the forum but the most of the threads are in german . - Is it also possible to show the HTPC window when the PC starts from standby? /Per Quote
Moses Posted October 29, 2007 Posted October 29, 2007 (edited) - I don't know the sidebar plugin, but as far as I understood it, you just run the exe and then let it "connect" to DVBViewer via the COM Interface... so running both applications on the same system at the same time should be enough.... but I'm not sure if that's what you want. I think OSD Show Favorites should be ok for you, too with a good OSD Skin. Just enable OSD->mouse hot tracking in OSD and OSD Appereance->use mouse sensitive areas and then klick on the left part of the TV window. Now the OSD Channellist will open up and if you select "Favorites" they'll show. The last selection will be remembered. With the Tggrey skin, for example, that will be quite close to that list in my opinion. - It's possible to run DVBViewer with commandline parameters for all the actions. So if you want to have the HTPC Home Menu showing, run DVBViewer.exe -x2110. If you want to run something else you'll have to put some other action-id here. Have a look at the actions.ini to find it. If you restart DVBViewer after standby (for example using the task scheduler) that should be simple to add. If not, then there are certain tools that run programs after wakeup from standby. Edited October 29, 2007 by Moses Quote
greycat Posted October 29, 2007 Author Posted October 29, 2007 - Well, I don’t think the sidebar is right for me if it’s not possible to access it by a remote control. That I want is a favourite menu as simple as possible. The reason is that I want to make all the changes in the options section of DVBViewer. That way there’s no risk that anybody else I my family make any changes by mistake. And it will also be an easy way to change channel. A popup window with all favourites listed. Like the ”Latest viewed” window (I’m at work and do not know the real name for it). That would be perfect. I tested the Tggrey skin this weekend and it’s near what I want. But the skin doesn’t appeal to me. Would this function be able to create in the OSD skineditor? - Okay, I thougt I could change some settings to get the HTPC mode to start. It would be nice if it's worked like a service. But I tried to run DVBViewer.exe -x2110 from commandline in XP and it worked fine. Maybe I can make a .bat-file and put in the autostart folder to get this to work. Quote
Moses Posted October 29, 2007 Posted October 29, 2007 - Hm, ok, you should learn a button for osd channellist or osd show favorites on your remote then. That should do all you want. The appereance depends on the OSD skin of course. Just choose one, that appeals to you (and your family)... of course you can use the OSD skineditor to change a present skin for your needs, too - In Autostart Folder you normaly always have shortcuts. Just edit the shortcut, put the path and DVBViewer.exe in quotes and add the parameters after that. So that the line looks like that: "C:\Program Files\DVBViewer\DVBViewer.exe" -x2110 Quote
greycat Posted October 29, 2007 Author Posted October 29, 2007 - I'll have to look at more OSD skins too see if there is one that have an appereance close too my wishes. And maybe when I get warmed up I'll get into the OSDskin editor an make my own... - Easy fixed... with help! Thanks alot for all the help! It's a pleasure too be a user when forum works like this. /Per Quote
Zero7 Posted October 30, 2007 Posted October 30, 2007 I tried many OSD Skins and I feel XBox skin fits the best for remote control usage. Making selection is more straight forward than default skin. You may find other skins suitable for your needs Quote
Moses Posted October 30, 2007 Posted October 30, 2007 I like Tgrey HD best, because it doesn't have preview windows, but always shows the picture in the background and it's cut down to what I need.. some buttons unnecessary are removed and so on. I think it's even better for remote control usage than xbox skin Ok, the color is not the best... but I was to lazy to change that. The rest of the desing is very good, in my mind. Quote
Zero7 Posted October 30, 2007 Posted October 30, 2007 I like Tgrey HD best, because it doesn't have preview windows, but always shows the picture in the background and it's cut down to what I need.. some buttons unnecessary are removed and so on. I think it's even better for remote control usage than xbox skin Ok, the color is not the best... but I was to lazy to change that. The rest of the design is very good, in my mind. Thanks Moses! I will check Tgrey HD. I did not mess with it much, it might have looked little dull for me Quote
Zero7 Posted November 1, 2007 Posted November 1, 2007 I tried Tgrey HD. It has good usability, but the problem was readability. Whenever you browse through files, you see the previous screen in the background and it is difficult to read the file names with some different letters in the background. I am sorry, if I have changed the subject completely from the title Quote
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