List of compatible DLNA devices

[DisTreSs]

I would like to suggest that a wiki page gets created where a list of supported devices/software is maintained that is compatible with regards to the recording service.

 

Maybe something where even the last tested version is included?

 

For instance:

Device/Software: PS3

Recording service version: 1.6.0.6

Status:

-LiveTV: Broken/Working

-Video: Broken/Working (maybe even specify which formats are allowed with/without transcoding?)

-Pictures: Broken/Working

-Music: Broken/Working (maybe even specify which formats are allowed with/without transcoding?)

...

 

Device/Software: Xbox360

Recording service version: 1.6.0.6

Status:

-Not supported

 

I'm still deciding what I'm going to use as an extender in my living room now that my Xbox360 has RR0D'd for the third (and possibly final) time... I would ofcourse like to buy an Xbox360 again, but only if I can also use it in conjunction with DVBViewer.

Other options for me include a bluray-player with DLNA suport, Popcorn hour or PS3.

I think it would be great for potential customers of DVBViewer to see to which devices they can stream their feeds based on the experience of existing users.

If they already have a device that is in the list, it's an additional reason to buy DVBViewer.

And if they do not have an extender yet, they can base their purchase decision on what is listed

Edited August 9, 2010 by DisTreSs

[hackbart]

Sounds like an idea...

 

All i can say here is that my TV (Panasonic Viera) only works with SD transmissions, while the PS3 runs fine with HD/SD TV and recordings.

Radio is not working at all, since the PS3 tries to determine the format and filesize on the fly, which does not work with Radio.

In the kitchen i have a Technisat Internetradio which runs fine with the Radiostreams.

 

Christian

[Lars_MQ]

Well there is much more to it. you would have to take the firmware version into account, the videoformat etc, so this list might get quite komplex...

[DisTreSs]

Sounds like an idea...

 

All i can say here is that my TV (Panasonic Viera) only works with SD transmissions, while the PS3 runs fine with HD/SD TV and recordings.

Radio is not working at all, since the PS3 tries to determine the format and filesize on the fly, which does not work with Radio.

In the kitchen i have a Technisat Internetradio which runs fine with the Radiostreams.

 

Christian

 

Thx Christian and thx for already updating some info

 

 

Well there is much more to it. you would have to take the firmware version into account, the videoformat etc, so this list might get quite komplex...

 

I agree, but if we were to somehow limit this to the most commonly used formats (not the entire DLNA spec), then at least we would offer some transparency already into the DLNA world while generating more interest for your product at the same time.

Where FW is concerned, this would not apply to every device. For instance, unless I'm totally out of the loop, I don't think lots of people spend time flashing their TV sets. I don't know about other devices such as Popcorn, but I can't imagine them bringing an update every other month either.

 

I think all it will take is some time to determine what type of info will be required, convert it into a DB and (most importantly) hope to get some usable feedback from the users.

[Lars_MQ]

Well the last PS3 firmware update broke the liveTV.

 

For flashing the TV: People who play with these kind of technologies are geeks and do flash their TV I've done so several times...

Streaming to the Xtreamer Device only works with the latest firmware. And popcornhour firmwares sometimes do break things on updates (but very seldom). And don't get me started on different hardware revisions of TVs...

 

 

Let's talk formats:

 

SDTV

Videostream: mpeg2, h264 - Audiostream: MP2, AC3, AAC - Container: TS or Mpeg-PS (w/ or w/o 2k boundary )

 

HDTV

Videostream: mpeg2, h264 - Audiostream: MP2, AC3, AAC

 

And in the next version you have to take

 

avi, mkv, wmv and asf

 

into account...

[A600]

Sony BDP-S370 Blu-ray Player:

 

Working: AVI videos

Not working: All the rest.

 

 

 

For LiveTV, I opened this thread days ago.

 

For MKV, the DLNA server serviio let change the mime-type. Changing it to "video/divx" works. See this thread

 

Would it be possible to change the mime-type with the latest recording service? I know this was posted:

 

There is no transcoding, it depends on the player if the files can be played.

Sometimes certain parameters need to be adjusted for some devices so they work correctly. As example the SamsungTV needs a special mime type so it can play mkv files.

These adjustments/settings will have to be examined and created on a case by case basis.

This will take place in the forum. Currently tested with a Samsung LCD TV, Popcorn Hour A100/A200 and PS3 (no mkv possible).

 

But I think that letting the end user to modify them would be reasonable.

Edited August 17, 2010 by A600

[Lars_MQ]

Would it be possible to change the mime-type with the latest recording service? I know this was posted:

take a look at the file uPnPProfiles.xml in the config folder.

 

See the Samsung example? Use something similar for the Sony.

 

<profile name="Sony BDP">
 	<UserAgent>!!!!! needs to be inserted !!!!!!!!!</UserAgent>
 	<Extensions>
   	<Ext name=".mkv">
     	<MediaFormat mime-type="video/divx" special="">MATROSKA</MediaFormat>
   	</Ext>
 	</Extensions>
</profile>

 

The only thing needed is the useragent which can be found out with the UPnP debugmode. It's normally part of the useragent string the clients sends and helps to identify the client.

 

 

But I think that letting the end user to modify them would be reasonable.

That's not the point. The point is, I want to know these changes so I can incorporate them and all users can profit from it.

[PerryM]

Sorry - posting from work so no details. Just upgraded RS to latest and I now get full support for my NMT device, an eGreat M34a (like Popcorn Hour). I get instant availability of Server and I now see the DVBViewer control panel at the NMT which maybe useful. To underline, I thus get full support for live TV (from FreeSat) including HD and any recordings on the computer. It also probably works with pictures and music although I never use this feature through DVBViewer.

FWIW

[A600]

The only thing needed is the useragent which can be found out with the UPnP debugmode. It's normally part of the useragent string the clients sends and helps to identify the client.

 

Great! I will try it tomorrow.

[A600]

This is the profile I'm using:

 

    <profile name="Sony BDP">
     <UserAgent>UPnP/1.0 DLNADOC/1.50</UserAgent>
     <Extensions>
       <Ext name=".mkv">
         <MediaFormat mime-type="video/divx" special="">MATROSKA</MediaFormat>
       </Ext>
       <Ext name=".mpeg">
         <MediaFormat mime-type="video/divx" special="">MPEG_PS_PAL</MediaFormat>
       </Ext>
       <Ext name=".mpg">
         <MediaFormat mime-type="video/divx" special="">MPEG_PS_PAL</MediaFormat>
       </Ext>
       <Ext name=".ts">
         <MediaFormat mime-type="video/divx" special="MPEG2">MPEG_TS_SD_EU_ISO</MediaFormat>
         <MediaFormat mime-type="video/divx" special="H264">AVC_TS_MP_HD_AC3_ISO</MediaFormat>
         <MediaFormat mime-type="video/divx" special="H264">MPEG_TS_HD_NA_ISO</MediaFormat>
         <MediaFormat mime-type="video/divx" special="H264">MPEG_TS_HD_KO_ISO</MediaFormat>
       </Ext>
     </Extensions>
   </profile>

 

Unfortunately, LiveTV isn't working. Is it (or will it be) possible to change the mime-type for LiveTV? because the Sony BDP doesn't like the video/mpeg tag at all.

[Lars_MQ]

No this doesn't work for lifetv. And the useragent does collide with the PS3.

 

Sony TV and liveTV is a problem. There are several threads about the bravia. I guess the same goes for your device...

[DisTreSs]

Hmmmm, I knew I started this thread up a while back, but completely forgot about it.

 

In any case, I finally have a DLNA device so I thought I would just post it here if it helps someone.

 

My brand spanking new 3D Plasma (Samsung 50C7700 in BE/NL, 50C7790 in DE, 50C7000 in UK, 50C8000 in US) works perfectly with live streams from the recordingservice. Tried both SDTV and HDTV streams and the picture is fingerlicking good. It takes a while for the stream to get through, but when it starts there are no hickups, stutters or glitches whatsoever (in a 100Mbit wired setting)!

 

I have not yet upgraded to the latest version (both for DVBViewer and recording service) since I have yet to request my new info, but I'll do it soon and then give a more complete overview of the things I've tried to playback on the TV.

 

So far I'm really loving it!!!

 

PS:

To get around the slow startup of the stream, I was planning on using the WebIF with EPG on a tabletpc and then sending the stream from the server to the TV from the EPG instead of 'zapping' around from channel to channel. But I don't think that is possible right now is it? What would be even more awesome is that I could preview the stream in the webIF on the tablet while my TV is still streaming another channel (yes I have more than one tuner) and then deciding if I want to send that stream to my TV. But I guess for streaming to start on that tablet would take as long as it would take on the TV... maybe if it gets recoded to a smaller format for preview that could be avoided?

Edited December 7, 2010 by DisTreSs

[DisTreSs]

Still waiting for my new DVBViewer license, so no update with regards to output formats yet.

However, in the meantime I was able to successfully stream a side-by-side 3D stream from a 3D demo channel on Astra 23.5° from my HTPC to the TV. How cool is that!

3D on my TV that's only hooked up with an ethernet cable and nothing else

 

I had expected there to be skips & stutters for sure with such a demanding stream, but it ran solid as a rock!