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Griga Grand Master

Griga

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Thanks. It's interesting - ATSC SI on a DVB-S transponder. I have never seen something like this before. It's some kind of feed, I guess? At least highly non-standard. In a true ATSC mux I would expect AC3 audio, not MPEG audio.

 

Do you think it is necessary to add live ATSC analysis for cases like this? A registration descriptor containing a GA94 format identifier, as you can see it in the PMT, may act as ATSC indicator. Or is the offline analysis (as you call it) sufficient? If it is only broadcasted temporarily or in rare cases I would rather save the work.

EnoSat Contributor

EnoSat

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yes, this not standart as T2-MI or MIS for some DVB-T transmitters from DVB-S2 transponders (90E,55E,49E,31E,21E,5W,12W) , but next ATSC i am view only on occasional italian feeds on 10 East

Derrick Newbie

Derrick

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Live ATSC parsing is performed by TSReader and 4T2 Content Analyser. But in this case it doesn't provide much useful information ;)

 

PAT Table
SectionCount: 1
Sections
PAT Section 0
TransportStreamID: 1 (0x0001)
TableID: 0 (0x00)
SectionLength: 13 (0x00D)
SectionData
00: 00 B0 0D 00 01 C3 00 00 00 02 E0 20 3E 04 0C EA .°...Ã....à >..ê
Received on PID: 0 (0x00)
SectionSyntaxIndicator: True
TableIDExtension: 1 (0x0001)
VersionNumber: 1 (0x01)
CurrentNextIndicator: Current
SectionNumber: 0 (0x00)
LastSectionNumber: 0 (0x00)
PAT Items
Item 0 for program 2 (0x0002) "<unknown>"
ProgramNumber: 2 (0x0002)
ProgramMapPID: 32 (0x0020)
PMT Table
SectionCount: 1
Sections
Map for program 2 (0x0002) "<unknown>"
ProgramNumber: 2 (0x0002) "<unknown>"
PCRPID: 33 (0x0021)
Descriptors
Descriptor 0
DescriptorTag: 5 (0x05) "registration_descriptor"
DescriptorSpace: ATSC
DefaultISOLanguageCode: ""
DescriptorLength: 4
DescriptorData:
00: 05 04 47 41 39 34 ..GA94
FormatDescriptor: 1195456820 (0x47413934) "GA94 ATSC"
Descriptor 1
DescriptorTag: 5 (0x05) "registration_descriptor"
DescriptorSpace: ATSC
DefaultISOLanguageCode: ""
DescriptorLength: 4
DescriptorData:
00: 05 04 B6 AC F1 79 ..¶¬ñy
FormatDescriptor: -1230179975 (0xB6ACF179) ""
Descriptor 2
DescriptorTag: 12 (0x0C) "Multiplex_buffer_utilization_descriptor"
DescriptorSpace: ATSC
DefaultISOLanguageCode: ""
DescriptorLength: 4
DescriptorData:
00: 0C 04 00 00 FF FF ....ÿÿ
BoundValidFlag: False
LTWOffsetLowerBound: 0 (0.00ms)
LTWOffsetUpperBound: 32767 (364.08ms)
Descriptor 3
DescriptorTag: 194 (0xC2) "ATSC user defined"
DescriptorSpace: ATSC
DefaultISOLanguageCode: ""
DescriptorLength: 1
DescriptorData:
00: C2 01 00 Â..
TableID: 2 (0x02)
SectionLength: 75 (0x04B)
SectionData
00: 02 B0 4B 00 02 C3 00 00 E0 21 F0 15 05 04 47 41 .°K..Ã..à!ð...GA
10: 39 34 05 04 B6 AC F1 79 0C 04 00 00 FF FF C2 01 94..¶¬ñy....ÿÿÂ.
20: 00 02 E0 21 F0 08 02 03 1A 48 5F 06 01 02 03 E0 ..à!ð....H_....à
30: 24 F0 09 0A 04 75 6E 64 00 03 01 67 03 E0 25 F0 $ð...und...g.à%ð
40: 09 0A 04 75 6E 64 00 03 01 67 F9 F5 04 8A ...und...gùõ.Š
Received on PID: 32 (0x20)
SectionSyntaxIndicator: True
TableIDExtension: 2 (0x0002)
VersionNumber: 1 (0x01)
CurrentNextIndicator: Current
SectionNumber: 0 (0x00)
LastSectionNumber: 0 (0x00)
Streams
Stream 0
StreamType 2 (0x02) (ITU-T Rec. H.262 | ISO/IEC 13818-2 Video or ISO/IEC 11172-2 constrained parameter video

stream)
ElementaryPID 33 (0x0021)
Descriptors
Descriptor 0
DescriptorTag: 2 (0x02) "video_stream_descriptor"
DescriptorSpace: ATSC
DefaultISOLanguageCode: ""
DescriptorLength: 3
DescriptorData:
00: 02 03 1A 48 5F ...H_
MultipleFrameRateFlag: False
FrameRateCode: 3 (25.000 fps)
MPEG1OnlyFlag: False
ConstrainedParameterFlag: True
StillPictureFlag: False
ProfileAndLevelIndication: 72 (0x48), Profile "Main", Level: "Main"
ChromaFormat: "420"
FrameRateExtensionFlag: False
Descriptor 1
DescriptorTag: 6 (0x06) "data_stream_alignment_descriptor"
DescriptorSpace: ATSC
DefaultISOLanguageCode: ""
DescriptorLength: 1
DescriptorData:
00: 06 01 02 ...
AlignmentType: 2 (Video: "Video access unit", Audio "Reserved")
Stream 1
StreamType 3 (0x03) (ISO/IEC 11172 Audio)
ElementaryPID 36 (0x0024)
Descriptors
Descriptor 0
DescriptorTag: 10 (0x0A) "ISO_639_language_descriptor"
DescriptorSpace: ATSC
DefaultISOLanguageCode: ""
DescriptorLength: 4
DescriptorData:
00: 0A 04 75 6E 64 00 ..und.
Items
Item 0
ISO639LanguageCode: und (Undetermined)
AudioType: (0x00) Audio Undefined
Descriptor 1
DescriptorTag: 3 (0x03) "audio_stream_descriptor"
DescriptorSpace: ATSC
DefaultISOLanguageCode: ""
DescriptorLength: 1
DescriptorData:
00: 03 01 67 ..g
FreeFormatFlag: False
ID: True
Layer: 2 (0x2)
VariableRateAudioIndicator: False
Stream 2
StreamType 3 (0x03) (ISO/IEC 11172 Audio)
ElementaryPID 37 (0x0025)
Descriptors
Descriptor 0
DescriptorTag: 10 (0x0A) "ISO_639_language_descriptor"
DescriptorSpace: ATSC
DefaultISOLanguageCode: ""
DescriptorLength: 4
DescriptorData:
00: 0A 04 75 6E 64 00 ..und.
Items
Item 0
ISO639LanguageCode: und (Undetermined)
AudioType: (0x00) Audio Undefined
Descriptor 1
DescriptorTag: 3 (0x03) "audio_stream_descriptor"
DescriptorSpace: ATSC
DefaultISOLanguageCode: ""
DescriptorLength: 1
DescriptorData:
00: 03 01 67 ..g
FreeFormatFlag: False
ID: True
Layer: 2 (0x2)
VariableRateAudioIndicator: False
MGT Table
SectionCount: 1
Sections
MGT Section 0
TablesDefined: 6 (0x0006)
Descriptors
TableID: 199 (0xC7)
SectionLength: 80 (0x050)
SectionData
00: C7 C0 50 00 00 C3 00 00 00 00 06 00 00 FF FB E1 ÇÀP..Ã.......ÿûá
10: 00 00 00 59 F0 00 01 00 FF 00 E1 00 00 00 0E F0 ...Yð...ÿ.á....ð
20: 00 01 01 FF 01 E1 00 00 00 0E F0 00 01 02 FF 02 ...ÿ.á....ð...ÿ.
30: E1 00 00 00 0E F0 00 01 03 FF 03 E1 00 00 00 0E á....ð...ÿ.á....
40: F0 00 03 01 FF FB E0 00 00 01 D8 F0 00 F0 00 62 ð...ÿûà...Øð.ð.b
50: 1F 03 81 ..
Received on PID: 8187 (0x1FFB)
SectionSyntaxIndicator: True
TableIDExtension: 0 (0x0000)
VersionNumber: 1 (0x01)
CurrentNextIndicator: Current
SectionNumber: 0 (0x00)
LastSectionNumber: 0 (0x00)
PSIP Table definitions
0 (0x0000) "Terrestrial VCT with current_next_indicator="1""
TableType: 0 (0x0000) "Terrestrial VCT with current_next_indicator="1""
TableTypePID: 8187 (0x1FFB)
TableTypeVersionNumber: 1 (0x01)
NumberBytes: 89 (0x00000059)
TableTypeDescriptorLength: 0 (0x00000000)
Descriptors
256 (0x0100) "EIT-0"
TableType: 256 (0x0100) "EIT-0"
TableTypePID: 7936 (0x1F00)
TableTypeVersionNumber: 1 (0x01)
NumberBytes: 14 (0x0000000E)
TableTypeDescriptorLength: 0 (0x00000000)
Descriptors
257 (0x0101) "EIT-1"
TableType: 257 (0x0101) "EIT-1"
TableTypePID: 7937 (0x1F01)
TableTypeVersionNumber: 1 (0x01)
NumberBytes: 14 (0x0000000E)
TableTypeDescriptorLength: 0 (0x00000000)
Descriptors
258 (0x0102) "EIT-2"
TableType: 258 (0x0102) "EIT-2"
TableTypePID: 7938 (0x1F02)
TableTypeVersionNumber: 1 (0x01)
NumberBytes: 14 (0x0000000E)
TableTypeDescriptorLength: 0 (0x00000000)
Descriptors
259 (0x0103) "EIT-3"
TableType: 259 (0x0103) "EIT-3"
TableTypePID: 7939 (0x1F03)
TableTypeVersionNumber: 1 (0x01)
NumberBytes: 14 (0x0000000E)
TableTypeDescriptorLength: 0 (0x00000000)
Descriptors
769 (0x0301) "RRT with rating_region 1"
TableType: 769 (0x0301) "RRT with rating_region 1"
TableTypePID: 8187 (0x1FFB)
TableTypeVersionNumber: 0 (0x00)
NumberBytes: 472 (0x000001D8)
TableTypeDescriptorLength: 0 (0x00000000)
Descriptors
STT Table
SectionCount: 1
Sections
STT Section 0
SystemTime: 0 (0x00000000) "06.01.1980"
GPSUTCOffset: 0 (0x00000000)
DayLightSaving: 0 (0x0000) Status: "Off"
Status: "Off"
DayOfMonth: 0 (0x00)
Hour: 0 (0x00)
Descriptors
TableID: 205 (0xCD)
SectionLength: 17 (0x011)
SectionData
00: CD C0 11 00 00 C1 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ÍÀ...Á..........
10: 3E 06 BC 1B >.¼.
Received on PID: 8187 (0x1FFB)
SectionSyntaxIndicator: True
TableIDExtension: 0 (0x0000)
VersionNumber: 0 (0x00)
CurrentNextIndicator: Current
SectionNumber: 0 (0x00)
LastSectionNumber: 0 (0x00)
EIT Table
Received on PID: 7936 (0x1F00)
EIT Section 2
NumEventsInSection: 0 (0x0000)
Descriptors
TableID: 203 (0xCB)
SectionLength: 11 (0x00B)
SectionData
00: CB F0 0B 00 02 03 00 00 00 00 9D 1F 5D E9 Ëð.........]é
Received on PID: 7936 (0x1F00)
SectionSyntaxIndicator: True
TableIDExtension: 2 (0x0002)
VersionNumber: 1 (0x01)
CurrentNextIndicator: Current
SectionNumber: 0 (0x00)
LastSectionNumber: 0 (0x00)
Received on PID: 7937 (0x1F01)
EIT Section 2
NumEventsInSection: 0 (0x0000)
Descriptors
TableID: 203 (0xCB)
SectionLength: 11 (0x00B)
SectionData
00: CB F0 0B 00 02 03 00 00 00 00 9D 1F 5D E9 Ëð.........]é
Received on PID: 7937 (0x1F01)
SectionSyntaxIndicator: True
TableIDExtension: 2 (0x0002)
VersionNumber: 1 (0x01)
CurrentNextIndicator: Current
SectionNumber: 0 (0x00)
LastSectionNumber: 0 (0x00)
Received on PID: 7938 (0x1F02)
EIT Section 2
NumEventsInSection: 0 (0x0000)
Descriptors
TableID: 203 (0xCB)
SectionLength: 11 (0x00B)
SectionData
00: CB F0 0B 00 02 03 00 00 00 00 9D 1F 5D E9 Ëð.........]é
Received on PID: 7938 (0x1F02)
SectionSyntaxIndicator: True
TableIDExtension: 2 (0x0002)
VersionNumber: 1 (0x01)
CurrentNextIndicator: Current
SectionNumber: 0 (0x00)
LastSectionNumber: 0 (0x00)
Received on PID: 7939 (0x1F03)
EIT Section 2
NumEventsInSection: 0 (0x0000)
Descriptors
TableID: 203 (0xCB)
SectionLength: 11 (0x00B)
SectionData
00: CB F0 0B 00 02 03 00 00 00 00 9D 1F 5D E9 Ëð.........]é
Received on PID: 7939 (0x1F03)
SectionSyntaxIndicator: True
TableIDExtension: 2 (0x0002)
VersionNumber: 1 (0x01)
CurrentNextIndicator: Current
SectionNumber: 0 (0x00)
LastSectionNumber: 0 (0x00)

 

 

 

 

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EnoSat Contributor

EnoSat

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Any chance preview radio IP stream from sat ?

next IP radio on 7 East

Radio Polska

12633 V

DVB-S/QPSK

SR-1085

FEC-3/4

 

 

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Derrick Newbie

Derrick

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There is a new test transponder on 33,5W (Hylias 1), 12483V, 15000, DVB-S2, QPSK, 3/4 with a couple of particularities ;)

 

Only a single service with multiple video and audio tracks is transmitted. PAT/PMT changes from time to time to new version with different es_pids and a different pcr. The analyzer can keep track with the live stream but gets totally confused when playing back a recording of the mux.

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Griga Grand Master

Griga

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6030 Mbps, or with other words, a 6 Gbps transponder. Quite a lot :)

 

That's because TransEdit uses the PCR (resp. the first PCR PID that it encounters) for controlling the data rate when reading a TS file with the same speed "as received live". Things like that happen If the PCR is discontinuous.

Derrick Newbie

Derrick

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Things like that happen If the PCR is discontinuous.

Not necessarily ;)

..same file, different tool (also pcr based):

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Griga Grand Master

Griga

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Tells me nothing, and to be true, not a matter of particular interest for me...

Derrick Newbie

Derrick

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Sounds rather ignorant. I thought it would be appreciated when possible bugs are revealed. Here it seems to be a real bug.

 

 

That's because TransEdit uses the PCR (resp. the first PCR PID that it encounters) for controlling the data rate

This transport stream only has a single service and hence a single PCR. The PMT changes after a while to another version with different PIDs. The old service is discontinued and with it the PCR. But there will be a new service with a fresh PCR. This can be demonstrated with yet another tool :D

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EnoSat Contributor

EnoSat

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Hi,

what situation with support MIS and PLS (etc. Mediaset on 13 East/11919 V ?

 

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  • 2 months later...
Derrick Newbie

Derrick

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Some SI tables and table_id values are not correctly resolved. The analyser of my example shows on the left a TDT with PID 20. On the right hand window the analyser only shows a TOD. When examining the ts_packets with the hex viewer only table_id value 0x70 shows up but not 0x73 which is the id of the TOT.

 

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in normal cases when both table_ids are present, the analyser shows both TDT and TOT on the left but only TOT on the right.

 

Griga Grand Master

Griga

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in normal cases when both table_ids are present, the analyser shows both TDT and TOT on the left but only TOT on the right.

 

This is ok, because the list on the right is a PID list, not a table list. However, TOT/TDT would be clearer, as well as SDT/BAT that share PID 17.

 

Only a TDT is broadcasted in your case, so that's what you get in the Hex Viewer. There is nothing wrong about it.

Derrick Newbie

Derrick

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There is nothing wrong about it.

..it's at least misleading and inconsistent. The hex view contains only 0x70 but is called TOT which should read 0x73 and left and right have different names for the same stream.

Antonio Newbie

Antonio

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small bug of a form

Transedit without transponders.

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Griga Grand Master

Griga

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Nice effect :) TransEdit doesn't know what to do, so it tries to do everything at the same time at this point. Sometimes software acts like humans.

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EnoSat Contributor

EnoSat

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Hi,

why analyse only stream from http source ?

 

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[sATTYPE]

1=6500

2=TS Stream Net:0

 

[DVB]

0=11

1=http://stream.zivekamery.sk/live/KUBINSKA1.stream/playlist.m3u8|tuning error

2=http://stream.zivekamery.sk:1935/live/KUBINSKA1.stream/playlist.m3u8|Kubinska hola 2k port 1935

3=rtmp://stream.zivekamery.sk/live/KUBINSKA1.stream|tuning error

4=rtmp://stream.zivekamery.sk/live/KUBINSKA1.stream.flv|tuning.error

5=rtmp://stream.zivekamery.sk:1935/live/KUBINSKA1.stream|waaaiiitttiiinnng

6=rtmp://stream.zivekamery.sk:1935/live/KUBINSKA1.stream.flv|waaaiiitttiiinnng

7=rtsp://stream.zivekamery.sk/live/KUBINSKA1.stream|tuning error

8=rtsp://stream.zivekamery.sk/live/KUBINSKA1.stream.flv|tuning.error

9=rtsp://stream.zivekamery.sk:1935/live/KUBINSKA1.stream|the server cannot provide the request transponder

10=rtsp://stream.zivekamery.sk:1935/live/KUBINSKA1.stream.flv|the server cannot provide the request transponder

11=stream.zivekamery.sk:1935/live/KUBINSKA1.stream/playlist.m3u8|tuning error

 

 

2=http://stream.zivekamery.sk:1935/live/KUBINSKA1.stream/playlist.m3u8|Kubinska hola 2k port 1935
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Griga Grand Master

Griga

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Sorry,

 

rtmp (flash): no go

rtsp: only if it conforms with the Sat>IP specifications, as delivered by the Recording Service.

http: must deliver a transport stream (pure TS or conforming with the HLS protocol that additionally uses m3u8 playlists).

udp/rtp: must contain a transport stream

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