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#1 duja

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Posted 04 November 2011 - 01:41

Hey,

How about trying to help the XBMC guys integrating DVBViewer RS to XBMC PVR feature?: http://wiki.xbmc.org...atch_TV_in_XBMC

XBMC rocks but lacks the support for a good tv solution. I believe DVBViewer would fit in like the hand in the glove here.

/D

#2 McenterFreak

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Posted 08 November 2011 - 01:37

Would be a lot better that DVBViewer developers look to XBMC and learn how to make a good user experience, and build this experience into DVBViewer. This would result in a (as always with DVBViewer) rock solid solution. I didn't have any crashes with DVBViewer in the last 2-3 years, despite I have installed all new versions, including Beta versions, without any backup, which is fantastic!

#3 bogdan1980

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Posted 08 November 2011 - 17:22

XBMC is crap, i cant stand it:P.
I do not know why people love XBMC and Boxee. But it's just me.

#4 duja

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Posted 08 November 2011 - 18:47

I have used DVBViewer for the last 4-5 years or so and I can easily say that it is the best DVB software out there, no doubt.

But from my experience XBMC has a gui that is solid and works really great.
Combining that with DVBViewer would be awesome.

#5 JoeyDK

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Posted 12 December 2011 - 22:47

Its the feature that XBMC needs...

which got nothing to do with the development on DVBViewer.

But...

I bought DVBViewer (and I haven't bought much software) and this is what I miss in my XBMC installation.
I doubt im the only one.

I believe this could be good business.

my 2 cents

#6 jakub

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Posted 19 December 2011 - 01:21

pvr is coming in next release after xbmc 11.0 eden, it's pretty much stable in it's current pvr branch.
I would love to see integration with dvbviewer and recording service.

Edited by jakub, 19 December 2011 - 01:21.


#7 Lars_MQ

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Posted 19 December 2011 - 01:30

Yes it would be nice, we just have to find somebody who can write the plugin for xbmc. Any takers? ;)

#8 MDHD

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Posted 19 December 2011 - 02:52

I dont think this is a good idea, because xbmc development is very slow. for two years they are focusing to have xbmc on tablets and smartphones and to have a lot of kitsch which doesnt work. there are so many plugins, but no plugin works as it should work. dharma or pre-eden. you never know, when xbmc will freeze on plugins.

i'm now using xbmc for all stuff, but only because it is very complicated to make dvbviewer playing all content. i should install a lot of codecs, and in crappy windows, and the codecs are conflicting with microsoft codecs. also the merrit settings are not helping for dvbviewer. also there is no possibility to have normal HD visualisation for music or radio. thats why i'm using xbmc.

xbmc is for movies and music ok. there is no audio HD bitstreaming for movies and no exclusive mode for music. so i dont unterstand why xbmc. it would be better, to make for dvbviewer new OSD engine (with some effects) and to ban microsoft codecs. it is more less to install the codecs for dvbviewer than to configure xbmc for external player (mpc-hc). for over 10 years i'm waiting for a solution i can watch tv, listen to music (audiophile mode) and watch movies with subtitle DXVA. there is on the market no software of this kind.

and i think that only DVBViewer could be such as software. dvbviewer only needs a new osd engine and better navigation. such as native neutrino CL plugin, also to have the possibility to make settings with the remote and not with the mouse. thats all...

#9 riviera

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Posted 19 December 2011 - 12:07

I think DVBViewer never works integrated in XBMC like a plugin or addon.
In this thread (seen from third message below) I asked them about this possibility.

Edited by riviera, 19 December 2011 - 12:10.


#10 PstryPtak

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Posted 31 December 2011 - 21:03

The best solution would be (my dream) to provide Recording Service for Linux.
I have a desktop PC with Linux that works around the clock.
It would be great to have all the time available stream server for DVBViewers on all PC in my LAN...

#11 newlynx

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 11:25

Personally I use Dvbviewer (the best 15E ever spent in software) for satellite receiveing and XBMC for movies and TV series, but I would like a plugin for the intergration of the recording service and XBMC. I know that this is not likely to happen because it requires a lot of effort. So, the other approach is to make Dvbviewer look more a media center software. There are some plugins for movies or TV series but I think there is a lot of imrovement space there.

#12 numa

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 18:31

+1 for a plugin for XBMC :)

#13 swordoski

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 18:53

XBMC already working very god with DVBViewer Recording Service as a Backend.

But i should be nice to use the XBMC PVR function.
Maybe could add DVBViewer Recording Service added to this list :biggrin:

http://tinyurl.com/877euwe

#14 numa

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 07:15

DVBViewer Recording Service doesn't work with XBMC Eden :(
There is a problem in XBMC with upnp.

#15 riviera

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 12:43

DVBViewer Recording Service doesn't work with XBMC Eden :(
There is a problem in XBMC with upnp.

XBMC Eden Beta 3 works fine with Upnp Recording Service again.

PD: you have to install the last version of Recording Service.

Edited by riviera, 29 February 2012 - 12:46.


#16 numa

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 18:51

Yeah cool !! :)
It works great !!

#17 duja

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Posted 18 March 2012 - 16:25

DVBViewer is easily the best TV software out there when it comes to stability, support for devices and features. The devs are also very good at supporting their software and taking it forward when it comes to new features.
Just look at the RS, that will probably be the standard backend for the DVBViewer software in a few years. The standard DVBViewer software will only consist of a GUI with RS as backend.
Users will be able to use TV and recordings on their TV, computer, and mobile devices, with RS handling all that.

I believe DVBViewer should focus harder on a good backend like RS where they can build support, for tv-cards, features etc. and then have a good API where frontends like XBMC and DVBViewer "viewer" can communicate against.
Take XBMC for example, it has the best integration for all your media like videos, music (even a spotify plugin) and even great plugins that lets you interact with online services like IMDB and media companies that let you stream content from their portals.

So, to end this post, take a lok on the integration with XBMC and put some effort to integrate DVBViewer RS features within XBMC. Having TV and EPG would be a great start :)

/D

#18 swordoski

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Posted 18 March 2012 - 20:16

Yeah! XBMC Live-Tv with DVBViewer RS as backend

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Posted 18 March 2012 - 23:47

Yeah! XBMC Live-Tv with DVBViewer RS as backend

Yeah!!!! A rock solid Backend (RS) with a buggy Frontend (XBMC). Who in the world could do the support for this combination?
I wote for making a pressure on the DVBViewer developers, to make DVBViewer more XBMC alike. The developers do a lot of work on the internals of RS and DVBViewer (thanks for that, thats why it is so staple), but nothing on the look and feel of the product, except in the latest RS, that got a shine up in the web interface.
I would hope that Hackbard, and his friends, now would look to the user interface of DVBViewer, and integrate WAF into their future development plans. I know i can skin etc. but we need a complete integrated Media Center, with excelent support for all our media, with a stunning user interface:-)

#20 duja

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 20:34

Yeah!!!! A rock solid Backend (RS) with a buggy Frontend (XBMC). Who in the world could do the support for this combination?


Dunno where the statement of a buggy interface comes from, clearly something that you have done a survey on...

Why invent the wheel again by putting time and effort on the GUI when XBMC has all that plus plugin support and the whole kit.

#21 McenterFreak

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 00:09

Dunno where the statement of a buggy interface comes from, clearly something that you have done a survey on...

Why invent the wheel again by putting time and effort on the GUI when XBMC has all that plus plugin support and the whole kit.

Anyway, we will not succeed. It seems that The developers don't read thiS:-(

#22 duja

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 13:18

They read this, but they are very quiet about it. We'll see if they are able give some comments on this in their OWN forum.

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 20:31

In the meantime I use XBMC and Dvbviewer side by side. You can automate it with EventGhost or LM Remote Keymap. If both applications are loaded, a switch between them is done in <1 second.
So I really don't miss an integration, XMBC as media center, Dvbviewer for TV.

I even have a small 7" USB Monitor on the side and can switch to SqueezePlay for playing music only.

#24 riviera

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 12:41

In the meantime I use XBMC and Dvbviewer side by side. You can automate it with EventGhost or LM Remote Keymap. If both applications are loaded, a switch between them is done in <1 second.
So I really don't miss an integration, XMBC as media center, Dvbviewer for TV.

I even have a small 7" USB Monitor on the side and can switch to SqueezePlay for playing music only.

This solution works fine but only works on a Windows PC.
The integration with xbmc would allow use DVBViewer on devices like Apple TV, Linux pc or Mac.
I know nothing works better than the combination DVBServer (integrated into RecService) + DVBViewer client in another Win pc.
A client for other platforms would be a dream.

#25 duja

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 14:21

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