DVBSubtitle Problem

[McenterFreak]

Neither Lars, nor myself where able to dermine lags. I tested it with Livetransmissions (BBC Prime, ZDF) as well as with recordings (YLE, NTV, High Definition Jade and J2). I also checked those files inside our DVB emulation (Filedevice) and it worked fine so far.

I installed yesterday 3.9.2.0

When viewing DVB-T, subtitle always hangs at least 30 seconds or until a new sub is showed

There is also a problem with timing. Subtitles are shown before the words are spoken

In DVB-S no problem

If i make a recording and play it in 3.9.2.0 i have the same problem. But if i play the same .ts in 3.9.1.0 there is no problem

If i play a .ts. recorded with 3.9.1.0, in 3.9.2.0 the same problems occur

I can make som short clips showing the problem, and upload it to you, if you want. Or upload it to Rapidshare?

[McenterFreak]

Her are two clips to test with

They are cut out (with ProjectX) from a larger clip, but they behave excactly the same way as the original.

 

Recorded with 3.9.1.0

 

Recorded with 3.9.2.0

 

Sorry shoul have been a reply to Hackbart

Edited February 25, 2008 by McenterFreak

[hackbart]

Well to be honest its nice that you provide some test snippets, but the DVBViewer does not change the ts stream. If you record with an old version the content is exactly the same like in the new one. I can test the stream but i personally dont think that i find a problem in it

 

Christian

PS: As i thought playback works fine here and even if the subtitles are not lip synchroneous it fits like it should. By the way the snippet of the Movie was obviously taken only a few km from my home town away

[Lars_MQ]

I checked it also. Works as christian said. No big delays or early showing of the subtitles.

[McenterFreak]

I installed yesterday 3.9.2.0

When viewing DVB-T, subtitle always hangs at least 30 seconds or until a new sub is showed

There is also a problem with timing. Subtitles are shown before the words are spoken

In DVB-S no problem

If i make a recording and play it in 3.9.2.0 i have the same problem. But if i play the same .ts in 3.9.1.0 there is no problem

If i play a .ts. recorded with 3.9.1.0, in 3.9.2.0 the same problems occur

I can make som short clips showing the problem, and upload it to you, if you want. Or upload it to Rapidshare?

I did send som Rapidshare links, but i think they got lost when Lars moved them

I have made 2 clips from larger files. They were made with ProjectX but they behave exactly as the originals

Created with 3.9.1.0

Created with 3.9.2.0

[McenterFreak]

Neither Lars, nor myself where able to dermine lags. I tested it with Livetransmissions (BBC Prime, ZDF) as well as with recordings (YLE, NTV, High Definition Jade and J2). I also checked those files inside our DVB emulation (Filedevice) and it worked fine so far.

It is very strange that the same clip behaves differently on yours and mine machine. To show how it looks here, i have made a capture from my TV screen with my Vidoecamera. This shows excatly what the problem is. After they stop speaking, the subtitle hangs in more than 50 seconds!

The file i uploaded to Rapidshare here:

Napoleon Captured From TV Clip

[Peter_P8n]

Wasnt this already covered here?

 

http://www.DVBViewer.info/forum/index.php?showtopic=24450

 

If you watch the .TS files with any other viewer than 3.9.2.0 there is NO problem.

 

The problem is what 3.9.2.0 shows while viewing/recording.

 

There is nothing wrong with the actual files.

 

I could be wrong, but I think you are using 3.9.2.0 to watch the file in your screen recording.

Am I correct?

 

Disclaimer: I could be wrong :-)

 

EDIT:

Solution:

The coders of DVBViewer needs to play the sample .ts files in DVBViewer 3.9.2.0 and figure out why we have problems and they dont.

Edited February 28, 2008 by Peter_P8n

[Peter_P8n]

Bonusinfo:

 

I just installed DVBViewer on my CLEAN vmware image of XP SP2 (english version).

I also have the same hanging subs there in 3.9.2.0 using the sample files from this thread.

 

I dont see why the 'testers' above in this thread, do not get the problem using 3.9.2.0 on their machines..

Edited February 28, 2008 by Peter_P8n

[Lars_MQ]

Well the 'testers' are the developers of DVBViewer, if they can't reproduce your problem there is nothing they (we) can do. And DVBSubs do work. not lippsyncron maybe but within the limits. Otherwise our finnish user would have complained heavily.

 

So the question ist what is wrong/different with your system.

[Peter_P8n]

3.9.3.0 fix the problem for me.

 

Can you confirm McenterFreak ?

[McenterFreak]

3.9.3.0 fix the problem for me.

 

Can you confirm McenterFreak ?

Yes

3.9.3.0 Solved the problem

[IRa]

And DVBSubs do work. not lippsyncron maybe but within the limits. Otherwise our finnish user would have complained heavily.

I have never met "loooong" hanging problem with DVBV (Finnish YLE subs) and in my opinion DVBsubs works (I am now using 3.9.3 beta). You must adjust the delay to get timing better, for me 2000 ms seems to be best.

 

(Btw. I noticed that I have made some wrong conclusions earlier by putting the delay as 0 sec (using keyboard and pressing OK), in fact it never accepted 0 ms dealy but use the old setting,m which was too long and my conclution was that delay setting has no effect at all)

[McenterFreak]

I have never met "loooong" hanging problem with DVBV (Finnish YLE subs) and in my opinion DVBsubs works (I am now using 3.9.3 beta). You must adjust the delay to get timing better, for me 2000 ms seems to be best.

 

(Btw. I noticed that I have made some wrong conclusions earlier by putting the delay as 0 sec (using keyboard and pressing OK), in fact it never accepted 0 ms dealy but use the old setting,m which was too long and my conclution was that delay setting has no effect at all)

What about the "official" release 3.9.2. Did you have any problem with hanging subtitles?

[IRa]

What about the "official" release 3.9.2. Did you have any problem with hanging subtitles?

Can't see any difference between them, no hanging

[McenterFreak]

Can't see any difference between them, no hanging

So the conclusion must be: Only Danish users have the problem that subtitles "hangs" in about 50 seconds in version 3.9.2.0. The problem is solved in 3.9.3.0 Beta, but this version is withdrawn from DVBViewer forum yesterday without any explanation.

Edited March 1, 2008 by McenterFreak