hackbart Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 As i already mentioned in a separate thread a while ago. I plan to publish a Video Editor as DVBViewer add-on. The Editor will definitively come as 32bit and 64bit application and also supports the DVBViewer Media Server Database. One part since the beginning was that also visual impaired users can use it to edit their videos. To do so i had spent a lot time in order to create a keyboard input logic which avoids ctrl+alt combinations if necessary. A simple example which i personally prefer to use instead my touch pad is editing by using the space bar to start playback and Shift+Left/Right to jump to a position near the commercial break. Then you set a begin marker with F3 and a end marker with F4. Jumping between them can be done by key "S" and "E". If you want to jump to the next marker you press E and then Cursor Right to move over the marker and then you can jump to the next marker with "S" or "E". This sounds more complicated than it is. Once you are familiar with it, you can easily edit your video. If you don't want to use the keyboard you can also use the mouse instead. All necessary functions are easily to reach on the display. When i started developing the editor i did not had in mind that users might want to convert their videos to a certain format. Anyway one tester asked if it could be possible to export the recordings to mkv or mp4. So i also added an option to convert the stream into a target format. Commercial detection is done by Comskip. Which i suppose the most video enthusiasts already have and i did not spent any time to invent something similar. Why should i, since comskip really does a great job. I think i might explain the obvious features on the screen shot above. On the top right you see the broadcast time. This is a combination of the start time of the recording plus the position in the recording. There are companies who compare the program lists with the broadcasts and so they can easily verify if the stated programme equals to the transmitted one. At the bottom left you see the current frame at the position. In the middle you see the time of the current position in the recording, starting with 00:00:00. The control bar below allows you to edit your recording. On top you have the video playback controls, followed by the time line slider. The time line consists of a preview image and the audio oscilloscope. Below you have the buttons to show/hide the image/audio preview, cut or keep mode, add begin/end/delete marker, keep, drop and invert selection button. The time code allows you to jump to a position and the save button is for building the cutted result. The last button on the bottom right opens a zoom menu where you can zoom in or out the video slider. The video renderer is based on the same technology we use in the DVBViewer. It uses the Allocator/Presenter system in order to render the video into a Direct3D graph. You can even use shaders to manipulate the display in real time. This is more a funny gimmick, but i like it. If you want to automate the process you can create batches: Right now the app has 4 different kind of jobs. Indexing: Indexing is optional and allows the editor to know the exact position of each frame in the video. The main advantage is that the trimmed result is more exact. Trimming: Trimming removes the marked positions in a file. It uses the cut list which should be located in the same folder of the video Comskip: Detects the commercials automatically and creates an edl list, which is used for trimming. Transcode: This job transcodes your result in a video format of your choice. In the future i probably also allow the creation of Blu-Ray discs if this is a feature wanted by users. At the time i only focused on the things i want to have and building DVDs or Blu-Rays is something i never did or did only a few times in the last 20 years. 3 Quote Link to comment
notaclue Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 I'll gladly check it out once it gets published. What will be the price, and will there be a trial-version? Thanks and regards notaclue Quote Link to comment
hackbart Posted March 21, 2018 Author Share Posted March 21, 2018 There will be a 14 days trial and a limitation to 3 batches per application run. I did not spend much time in the copy protection yet. The price will be 19 Euro. Christian 1 Quote Link to comment
Hansrh Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Looking forward to get it :-) Quote Link to comment
Webturtle Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Me too! In which Section will it be announced (German) ? Many Greetings Webturtle Quote Link to comment
hackbart Posted March 29, 2018 Author Share Posted March 29, 2018 I've announced it on the main page. The editor is complete and feature freezed since a while. After the next DVBViewer update i will publish it. Maybe earlier, but to do so i have to put a new version of the key tool to the installer. Christian PS: Happy easter Quote Link to comment
hackbart Posted April 9, 2018 Author Share Posted April 9, 2018 I will upload the 32 bit and 64bit builds tomorrow. Right now i'm testing the installer on several virtual machines, but i'm confident that everything will run like intended. It should run under XP, but its probably better to have at least vista. Quote Link to comment
Tony Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Hi, I have no experience with the program of a similar type, maybe I am doing something wrong, but I don't know where the error is. Edited video file cannot be saved, it creates a file of the specified name on the zero size. The problem occurs in both version 1.0.0.0 and 1.0.1.0, 32 bit and 64 bit. OS is Windows 10 v1709, build 16299.371. Quote Link to comment
mannix Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 (edited) Ich habe eben noch einmal getestet und nur den Vor-, bzw. den Nachlauf der HD-Aufnahme abgeschnitten. Die Default.ts läuft viel zu schnell, nicht lippensynchron und hat lt. TSDoctor 4.258 AC3-Fehler. Version 1.01 64 Bit / Windows 10 Version 1709 (Build 16299.371) / Filmlänge 50 min. Edited April 12, 2018 by mannix Quote Link to comment
majstang Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 4 hours ago, Tony said: Hi, I have no experience with the program of a similar type, maybe I am doing something wrong, but I don't know where the error is. Edited video file cannot be saved, it creates a file of the specified name on the zero size. The problem occurs in both version 1.0.0.0 and 1.0.1.0, 32 bit and 64 bit. OS is Windows 10 v1709, build 16299.371. I think you need to describe more detailed what you did in order to get 0 sized files. Quote Link to comment
Tony Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Hi majstang, Win10 64bit, v1709, build 16299.371. DVBViewer Pro v6.0.4.0, DVBVservice v2.0.4.0, DVB-C & DVB-T via UPC cable. DVB Video Editor 32bit installed to existing C:\Program Files (x86)\DVBViewer\ (or alternatively installed to DVB Video Editor 64bit to new folder C:\Program Files\DVBViewer\ ) DVBVE v1.0.0.0 tested both, 32bit and 64bit. DVBVE v1.0.1.0 tested 32bit only. Tested files: mpg Spoiler Main Complete name : D:\Retiree\Videos\Svou káru táhnem dál.mpg Format : MPEG-PS File size : 838 MiB Duration : 58 min 35 s Overall bit rate : 1 999 kb/s Video ID : 224 (0xE0) Format : MPEG Video Format version : Version 2 Format profile : Main@Main Format settings : CustomMatrix / BVOP Format settings, BVOP : Ano Format settings, GOP : M=3, N=15 Format settings, picture structure : Frame Duration : 58 min 35 s Bit rate : 1 704 kb/s Maximum bit rate : 9 800 kb/s Width : 720pixely Height : 576pixely Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate : 25,000 FPS Standard : PAL Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : Interlaced Scan order : Top Field First Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.164 Time code of first frame : 00:00:00:00 Time code source : Group of pictures header Stream size : 714 MiB (85%) Audio #1 ID : 192 (0xC0) Format : MPEG Audio Format version : Version 1 Format profile : Layer 2 Duration : 58 min 35 s Bit rate : 192 kb/s Channel(s) : 2 kanály Sampling rate : 48,0 kHz Frame rate : 41,667 FPS (1152 SPF) Delay relative to video : 24 ms Stream size : 80,5 MiB (10%) Audio #2 ID : 193 (0xC1) Format : MPEG Audio Format version : Version 1 Format profile : Layer 2 Duration : 58 min 35 s Bit rate : 64,0 kb/s Channel(s) : 1 kanál Sampling rate : 48,0 kHz Frame rate : 41,667 FPS (1152 SPF) Stream size : 26,8 MiB (3%) hevc Spoiler Main ID : 8978 (0x2312) Complete name : D:\Retiree\Videos\T2_Air Force One.ts Format : MPEG-TS File size : 2,69 GiB Duration : 2 h 44 min Overall bit rate : 2 339 kb/s Video ID : 289 (0x121) Menu ID : 520 (0x208) Format : HEVC Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding Format profile : Main@L3.1@Main Codec ID : 36 Duration : 2 h 44 min Width : 960pixely Height : 540pixely Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate : 50,000 FPS Standard : Component Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 (Type 0) Bit depth : 8 bits Color range : Limited Color primaries : BT.709 Transfer characteristics : BT.709 Matrix coefficients : BT.709 Audio ID : 290 (0x122) Menu ID : 520 (0x208) Format : AAC Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Format profile : HE-AAC / LC Format settings : NBC Muxing mode : LATM Codec ID : 17-2 Duration : 2 h 44 min Channel(s) : 2 kanály Channel positions : Front: L R Sampling rate : 48,0 kHz / 24,0 kHz Frame rate : 23,438 FPS (1024 SPF) Delay relative to video : -547 ms Text ID : 294 (0x126) Menu ID : 520 (0x208) Format : DVB Subtitle Codec ID : 6 Delay relative to video : 423 ms Language : Czech Menu ID : 288 (0x120) Menu ID : 520 (0x208) Duration : 2 h 44 min List : 289 (0x121) (HEVC) / 290 (0x122) (AAC) / 294 (0x126) (DVB Subtitle, Czech) Language : / / Czech Both files can be edited (I can't), but the file is not saved. Save as from the menu, or save from the command line will open window to insert the file name (the default name is Default. ts), the file is created with that name, but has zero size. Quote Link to comment
majstang Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 @Tony can you drop these recordings for testing and post the link? https://uploadfiles.io/ Quote Link to comment
Tony Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 No problem... The first file (HEVC) is a record of the test DVB-T2 Digital Broadcasting Company, a.s., the second file is an older record DVB-C, VideoReDo edited. Currently (today) I don't have other records available, but I can prepare additional files during the weekend. It is very likely that when you try to save a file, I'm making a fatal mistake, I don't have experience with a similar program P.S. The term "No problem" proved to be somewhat optimistic, my provider is UPC and upload I have limited to 20 Mbit/s Quote Link to comment
majstang Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 14 hours ago, Tony said: Both files can be edited (I can't), but the file is not saved. Save as from the menu, or save from the command line will open window to insert the file name (the default name is Default. ts), the file is created with that name, but has zero size. Problem is confirmed with both recordings. I'll pass them on to @hackbart. Quote Link to comment
hackbart Posted April 13, 2018 Author Share Posted April 13, 2018 Yes i can confirm this with the Video. The problem is the AAC Audio Stream. This will be fixed within the next days, i hope. Quote Link to comment
Webturtle Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 (edited) Hallo, ich habe festgestellt, daß der Videoeditor nicht bei Aufnahmen aller Sender funktioniert. Zunächst sei vorweggeschickt, daß er bei meinem DVB-T2 HD Receiver nicht funktioniert. Dessen Aufnahmen lassen sich aber auch nicht mit dem VLC-Mediaplayer anzeigen, sondern nur mit dem MPC-HC und mit dem TS-Doctor schneiden. Aufnahmen mit meinen DVB-S2 Receiver (NDR HD) gingen dagegen. Ebenso DVB-S Aufnahmen mit dem DVBViewer. Bei DVB-T2 HD (Frankfurt am Main - Rhein/Main) Aufnahmne mit dem DVBViewer hängt es vom Sender ab! Aufnahmen von ZDF Sendern ließen sich öffen (z.B. ZDF, 3sat). Bei Aufnahmen von ARD Sendern dagegen tut sich nichts, wenn man sie öffnen will. Es handelt sich u.a. um Das Erste, hr, Bayern Nord, rbb, NDR, One, arte. Ich habe übrigens für alle Codecs LAV ausgewählt und alle Testaufnahmen lassen sich mit dem DVBViewer anzeigen. Viele Grüße Webturtle Sorry, der Beitrag sollte eigentlich im deutschen Thread landen. Sorry, the posting was intended to be shown in the german thread. Edited April 24, 2018 by Webturtle Quote Link to comment
majstang Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 What kind of audio track does your problematic recordings have? It has been reported the Elecard demultiplexer seem to have problems with recordings containing E-AC3 audio in the load phase. Quote Link to comment
Casual Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 How to reencoding and storing recorded shows in mp4 format? Anyone can tell me step by step, pls? Quote Link to comment
hackbart Posted April 25, 2018 Author Share Posted April 25, 2018 Save Video As, change the file Extension to MP4 or use the Batch Manager. 1 Quote Link to comment
Casual Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Thank you so much. One more thing, pls. Can you help me how can I normalize the audio when converting? Quote -crf 20.0 -vcodec libx264 -preset slow -acodec aac -ar 48000 -b:a 128k -coder 1 -flags +loop -cmp chroma -partitions +parti4x4+partp8x8+partb8x8 -me_method hex -subq 6 -me_range 16 -g 250 -keyint_min 25 -sc_threshold 40 -i_qfactor 0.71 -b_strategy 1 -threads 0 Quote Link to comment
Tony Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Hi, Video file does not load (HEVC, AAC), only in the bottom bar displays the file name. Video Editor 64bit V1.0.4 https://ufile.io/rc5r0 Quote Link to comment
hackbart Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 Ahoj, this is just a log file. Quote Link to comment
Tony Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) I sent folder with two files, failed to ... https://ufile.io/aupyy Edited April 27, 2018 by Tony Quote Link to comment
Alan_SP Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Before testing, I'd like to ask about converting files. I usually want to keep some shows in much smaller size than what .ts files provide, I keep files in .ts only till I watch them, after that I delete them. And few shows I want to save "for posterity" I convert them with Any Video Converter (at the moment it produces the best quality of all programs I used so far, but also has some problems). Thing is, I usually like to play with bitrates, some files I compress more, some less, depending on show quality and its importance for me. Anyway, does Video Editor supports defining custom bitrates for video and audio, as well as different codecs? And if not, will it be added in later versions, I saw you also plan to add support for importing from other formats in future versions. Quote Link to comment
Tony Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 https://ufile.io/g72pq No comment ! (1.0.5) Quote Link to comment
hackbart Posted May 12, 2018 Author Share Posted May 12, 2018 Hmm, i can't reproduce any problems with your HEVC recordings anymore within the last build. As i said, the issue with your recordings was the AAC LATM audio channel. The editor now handles these streams fine. Quote Link to comment
Tony Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 Hi Chris, Hmm, that's strange! That I was the problem myself? I have no experience with editing programs, I do not have any consultant. Maybe I'm making a mistake when you install, maybe it's due to the use of the actual computers, no virtual machine I do not ... The OS is Windows 10 Pro 64 bit, always the current version, i.e. starting with the Video Editor v1.0.0 gradually 1709/16299.371, 16299.402, 1709/1803/1803/17134.1, and finally 17134.48. I use a full installation (all users) of the DVBViewer & Video Editor, also the latest version The Installer v1.0.0/1.0.1 installed 32 bit editor to the folder C:\ ... (x 86) \DVBViewer. I don't know whether it was a bug or by design. Next, I tried the 64 bit version only. I don't remember the details, but for the lowest version (1.0.0 and 1.0.1, 1.0.2, maybe) the file has loaded, and with many difficulties to edit. For all other versions of the video file does not load, the editor only displays the file name. Normally I use VideoReDo TVSuit in 5.3.83.763, it fully meets my needs, but cannot HEVC. I also tried TMPGEnc, VirtualDub or OpenShot Video Editor. None of these applications does not have the loading problem of the attached video file. It is possible that I am using real PC, not the right virtual machine… Quote Link to comment
majstang Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 Confirmed. The 1.0.5 64-bit version does not load your files at all. No problem with the 32-bit version though. 1 Quote Link to comment
Tony Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 (edited) I assume that the previously saved video files are no longer available (7 days), I have appointed four new files, records of Broadcasting DVB-T2 in length of 5 minutes (5 + 5 + 5) from three different multiplexes three different providers broadcasters, taken immediately after the succession, including relevant log records. Further suppose that the archiving of the zip format, the structure of video files does not change. Samples of saving for 30 days. https://ufile.io/xxlw3 Edited May 13, 2018 by Tony Quote Link to comment
hackbart Posted May 12, 2018 Author Share Posted May 12, 2018 I can confirm the issue with the 64bit build. It is a problem in the Solveig Trim Engine somewhere. Please use so far the 32bit build. I guess an update next week will solve this. What i can say, the 32bit version runs fine with all of your streams i had tested here. Quote Link to comment
Tony Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 (edited) Hi, I am not sure, how (where) to install the 32 bit version? The Installer offers to install to the program folder of DVBViewer, C:\Program Files (x 86)\DVBViewer. Is it OK ? Edited May 12, 2018 by Tony Quote Link to comment
majstang Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 (edited) Usually on 64-bit Windows 32-bit applications installs to C:\Program Files (x86) while 64-bit apps are located to C:\Program Files Edited May 12, 2018 by majstang 1 Quote Link to comment
hackbart Posted May 14, 2018 Author Share Posted May 14, 2018 I uploaded a hotfix for the 64bit version. I just had to add one line of code to repair the problem: https://support.medialooks.com/hc/en-us/articles/360000210012--Floating-division-by-zero-error-with-Delphi Christian 2 Quote Link to comment
Tony Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 OK, this issue seems to be resolved. Everything else depends on the needs and practices of each particular user. I'm going to get used to … Quote Link to comment
Tony Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 (edited) Storno Edited May 14, 2018 by Tony Quote Link to comment
hackbart Posted May 15, 2018 Author Share Posted May 15, 2018 I have no idea what your text fragments mean. Quote Link to comment
Tony Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Storno – cancel, take back (in IT too). I overreacted and wrote a stupid ... I did not find the Delete (post) button Different versions of the Video Editor I installed several times. Maybe it's just a result of, I don't know ... I do not see fit to install Video Editor to DVBViewer program folder. In the 32-bit version of the installer is the DVBViewer is set as the default. It is probably not a good solution. Only one configuration folder \CMUV\DVBViewer for the DVBViewer and Video Editor is not a good solution. Around it is not common to use 32-bit and 64-bit version on one machine. If so, would it be appropriate to separate configuration files for each version (see ad 2) Quote Link to comment
Tony Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Hi, After editing (ts, AVC) file saving, trying the extension mkv. It takes a long time, I am finishing my transcoding (CANCEL button). Progress window storage (coding) disappears, but running without interruption on transcoding ... Properly I close the editor (File > Exit), transcoding stops for a few seconds after the end of the program. Quote Link to comment
hackbart Posted May 17, 2018 Author Share Posted May 17, 2018 Of course it takes a long time. You should change the Transcoding to -acodec copy -vcodec copy if you just want to replace the container. Quote Link to comment
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