Griga Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 I would like to provide an up-to date Hotbird 13°E channel list in the upcoming DVBViewer release. However, my Hotbird reception conditions are not sufficient (dish too small ). There are several DVB-S2 transponders that I can't receive properly. Is there anybody who can help? I need the unfiltered results of "Scan All" performed with TransEdit and exported as INI channel list, requiring the following steps: Copy the attached fairly complete Hotbird transponder list to the Transponders sub-directory of the configuration folder. Or use your own list if you believe you have a better one. Select the Hotbird transponder list on the left side of the TransEdit main window. Check if DiSEqC must be adjusted. Then click "Scan All". Switch all filtering off in the scanner window: Filter 1 = Both, Filter 2 = Both, Filter 3 = all checkboxes ticked. I can filter it later according to my needs. After the scan is done select Category = Provider (Root doesn't matter), click "Select All" and then "Export to File". Zip the INI channel list and attach it here. Thanks in advance... DVB-S_0130.ini Quote Link to comment
Darwin Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 (edited) Mach' ich gleich mal. Muss erstmal Essen... edit: Satt! Scan mit TBS 5520 SE (S2X-Tuner) und Transedit 4.2.1.1 Im zip: * Hotbird 13.0°E_Channels.ini (Kategorie: Provider) * DVB-S_0130.ini (aktualisiert durch NIT-Auswertung) * dvbv_Scan_End.jpg (Kontrolle, ob Einstellungen wie gewünscht) Falls was nicht passt > Nachfragen! transfer.zip Edited December 23, 2018 by Darwin Quote Link to comment
Griga Posted December 23, 2018 Author Share Posted December 23, 2018 Thanks a lot! However, there is one thing that doesn't work out. FEC is in all scan results "auto". Did you use the "Always scan with auto FEC dectection" option? This is fine for people with devices that are able to auto-detect the FEC, but for others the result is unusable. Unfortunately there is no easy way to correct it. So can you please perform the scan again with this option swiched off? Quote Link to comment
Darwin Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Sorry, "auto FEC detection" was enabled from an earlier scan test with S2X-FECs. Now a 'auto FEC disabled' version: Hotbird 13.0°E_Channels_ini.zip Quote Link to comment
Griga Posted December 24, 2018 Author Share Posted December 24, 2018 Thanks again. Here are the resulting (reworked) Hotbird channel lists for the upcoming release: Hotbird_Channels.zip You can store them in the DVBViewer installation directory\Default\Channels subdirectory. If someone wants or needs to know: Exported INI channel lists can be re-imported in TransEdit 4.2. Just drag & drop them into the TransEdit main window. TransEdit will automatically detect that it is a channel list (no transponder list) and display it in the scanner window as if scanned. You can do almost everything with it that you can do with a "fresh" scan, e.g. apply filter options, export parts of it, preview channels etc. Quote Link to comment
Griga Posted June 29, 2019 Author Share Posted June 29, 2019 @Darwin: Would you do it again for the upcoming release? Or anybody else who is able to provide a complete Hotbird channel list? For instructions see my first post. Here is the updated Hotbird transponder list: <attachment removed> Quote Link to comment
Darwin Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Same environment: Hotbird_Scan_190702.zip 1 Quote Link to comment
Griga Posted July 3, 2019 Author Share Posted July 3, 2019 Thanks I've updated the Hotbird transponder list again according to your findings and information from Lyngsat: DVB-S_0130.ini Quote Link to comment
Griga Posted August 9, 2020 Author Share Posted August 9, 2020 (edited) @Darwin: Please play it again, Sam ...or someone else (see first post). I'm preparing the next releases. Here is an updated Hotbird transponder list that can be used for the scan (and also corrected, if active transponders are missing): Edited August 13, 2020 by Griga attachment deleted Quote Link to comment
Darwin Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Sorry for delay! Too hot to play... ? Your Transponderlist is complete. Compare my 'Update" through TransEdit 4.2.4 => DVB-S_0130_transedit.ini Channellist scanned without data services and inactive channels => Hotbird 13.0°E_Channels.ini HotbirdScans.zip Quote Link to comment
Griga Posted August 13, 2020 Author Share Posted August 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, Darwin said: Channellist scanned without data services and inactive channels => Hotbird 13.0°E_Channels.ini Thanks a lot I can use it, though an unfiltered list is generally more suitable for my needs. See my first post: On 12/23/2018 at 10:34 AM, Griga said: Switch all filtering off in the scanner window: Filter 1 = Both, Filter 2 = Both, Filter 3 = all checkboxes ticked. I can filter it later according to my needs. Quote Link to comment
Griga Posted August 13, 2020 Author Share Posted August 13, 2020 (edited) P.S. A mistake in your transponder list: 11747 H is DVB-S2, not DVB-S (according to LyngSat and KingOfSat). 8PSK modulation doesn't fit DVB-S anyway. It has to be corrected (also in the scan results) because it spoils reception with devices that can't auto-detect the modulation system. Edited August 13, 2020 by Griga frequency corrected Quote Link to comment
Griga Posted August 13, 2020 Author Share Posted August 13, 2020 P.P.S. Same mistake with 12399 H. Quote Link to comment
Griga Posted August 13, 2020 Author Share Posted August 13, 2020 P.P.P.S Same mistake with 12520 H. And wrong modulation in both our lists. Obviously our proceeding doesn't work out in this way. I'll check my transponderlist again, by comparing it with your list and LyngSat / KingOfSat, then I'll re-upload it, then please perform the scan again by using my list. Otherwise things are not in sync. Quote Link to comment
Griga Posted August 13, 2020 Author Share Posted August 13, 2020 @Darwin: Please perform another scan by using my new attached transponder list and export the channels without any filtering. Your transponder list contains several mistakes containing modulation, DVB-S/S2 and FEC, accordingly affecting your scan results. Your device seems to to have good auto-detection capabilities. Otherwise you wouldn't get results on the erroneous transponders. By comparing our lists I also detected 3 mistakes in my list, though I've updated it with a NIT scan and afterwards compared it with LyngSat data. Here is the corrected version: DVB-S_0130.ini Quote Link to comment
Darwin Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Zitat 23.12.2018 um 10:34 Long, long ago... ? Zitat Your device seems to to have good auto-detection capabilities TBS 5520 SE (DVB-S2X) Used your ScanList (without NIT_Update) and Filter 1 = Both, Filter 2 = Both, Filter 3 = all checkboxes ticked Hotbird 13.0°E_Channels_2.zip Quote Link to comment
Griga Posted August 13, 2020 Author Share Posted August 13, 2020 Looks good If you want to know how I work with your results: Drag & drop your Hotbird 13.0°E_Channels_2.ini into the TransEdit main window. The content appears in the scanner windows "as if just scanned", and I can do almost everything with it that can be done after scan: Sort the results, change filter options... provided the channel list has been stored unfiltered. Quote Link to comment
Darwin Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Thanks! Good to know if I forget to arrange my own "configuration" ... Quote Link to comment
Darwin Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 KingOfSat reports a change: Switched standard: Hot Bird 13C (13E), 12713.00MHz pol.V, DVB-S2 8PSK, SR:29900, FEC:3/4 (2020-08-15) Quote Link to comment
Griga Posted January 12, 2022 Author Share Posted January 12, 2022 @Darwin Same procedure as every year... can you please provide another Hotbird channel list, based on the transponder list that I've attached below? I've just updated it by using Lyngsat... everything else as usual. DVB-S_0130.ini Quote Link to comment
Darwin Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 (edited) As soon as possible... Edit: And already possible. Scanned with NIT. Starts with 88 ends with 217 TS. Only one additional TS found : 11804,2 V S2 8PSK 3/4 set_export.zip Zip includes : * DVB-S_0130+NIT * Hotbird 13.0°E_Channels (incl. 11804 V) Hope, it's okay... Edited January 14, 2022 by Darwin Aktualisierung mit Ergebnis 1 Quote Link to comment
Griga Posted January 15, 2022 Author Share Posted January 15, 2022 Thanks vor 23 Stunden schrieb Darwin: Only one additional TS found : 11804,2 V S2 8PSK 3/4 It is contained in my list, but the symbolrate is wrong. It's corrected now. I've manually corrected the few provider names that are spelled wrongly or differently in your channel list, and I will not put more effort into it. The default channel- and transponder lists shipped with DVBViewer are supposed to provide an easy start for beginners. Everybody who wants more elaborated lists, should scan and sort the results according to her/his liking. Quote Link to comment
Griga Posted December 24, 2023 Author Share Posted December 24, 2023 @Darwin & others: If Santa Claus happens to drop by here, please tell him that I would like to get up-to-date Hotbird transponder and channel lists for Christmas They are supposed to be included in the next DVBViewer release. Quote Link to comment
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