Network "HD Homerun DVB-C" tuners not detected in new clean WIN11 installation

[Langhuse]

Scenario

• Tuner: HD Homerun EXPAND Model: HDHR3-4DC (4 x DVB-C tuners)
• Upgrade PC to new HW and WIN11 ver. 22H2
• Installed DVBViewer 7.2.2.0
  • Issue: The setup wizard did not detect any hardware.

 

Starting DVBViewer in normal mode and

• Tested that older recordings can still be played - OK.
• Retry: Settings->Hardware->Detect - ERROR nothing detected

 

Note that the "HD Homerun Viewer" and "VLC" both can open and tune the HD Homerun DVB-C tuner.

The same tuner was used earlier with DVBViewer/Media Server.

 

Followed the instructions here to collect the information requested  https://www.DVBViewer.tv/forum/topic/2210-how-to-post-bugs-or-problems-correctly/
The support.zip is attached

 

Additionally you should indicate the following:
Exact name of the TV-card and used driver version

• HD Homerun EXPAND Model: HDHR3-4DC, Firmware: 20220822
• WIN11 Driver ??? - but works with other applications

Graphics card and used driver version

• NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti - this card is not upgraded and worked with my earlier  DVBViewer/Media Server installation

 

The HD Homerun is a networked tuner, but this worked earlier. I also see the BDA driver mentioned but I have nothing in device manager "Sound, video and game controllers".

 

Thanks for your always prompt support
Poul Nielsen

 

support.zip

[Griga]

Here a German user reported that a Silicondust setup software must be installed and run in order to make the tuners visible for DVBViewer. Did you do that?

 

[Langhuse]

Thanks, that nailed it.

 

 

Apparently DVBViewer depends on the BDA driver to detect networked HD Homerun tuners.

 

 

HD Homerun Viewer can be downloaded via the Microsoft Store in WIN11. The viewer works right away and detect the HD Homerun tuner on the network.
Note that this is not enough for DVBViewer.

 

 

 

HD Homerun setup

 

1. Download and install the "HDHomeRun Software for Windows – includes firmware upgrade" from the SiliconDust software download page https://www.silicondust.com/support/downloads/
   
   Make sure that the frequency and QAM is correct when going through the setup wizard.
    
2. The wizards end by detecting available channels. Take some time.

 

 

DVBViewer setup and channel scanning

1. Start DVBViewer, Settings->Hardware
2. Detect
   Beware if using Cable: DVBViewer assumes that HD Homerun always are Terrestical tuners, you must change the tuner type to Cable (1) to get the tuning working (in Settings->Hardware)
3. Scan for channels. Takes some time

 

 

One unclear issue: Is DVBViewer using the channel list detected by the HD Homerun Wizard and made available on the WIN PC, or does it use the channel scan directly on the networked HD Homerun tuner?

 

 

 

Once again - thanks for the support.

 

Poul

 

 

(1) thanks for fixing this for me earlier

 

Edited October 19, 2022 by Langhuse

[Langhuse]

One more comment.

 

If HD Homerun is installed first AND the tuners are for Cable

 

Installing DVBViewer will detect the 4 HD Homerun tuners, but it will guess that they are Terrestical (not Cable)

 

When DVBViewer starts

1. it will open the scan dialog, but this will not work since there are no Terresticval tuner

2. close the dialog

3. open Settings->Hardware

4. scan

5. Change the type of each of the 4 tuner to Cable

6. go to Channel Search

 

Now scanning should work

Edited October 19, 2022 by Langhuse

[Robot]

Problem:

I have a HD Homerun Connect device from 2017 (Model HDHR4-2DT). It has 2 DVD-T2 tuners and works perfectly with DVBViewer Pro (Version 6.1.1.0). on my old Win 10 PC but the terrestrial tuners are not detected on my new Win 11 PC.

1.     Installed HD Homerun on my new Win 11 PC.

2.     Installed new DVBViewer Pro (Version 7.3.1.0).

3.     Device Selection in the wizard only detects my 2 DVB-S devices but not the 2 DVB-T2 channels

How can I make the DVB-T2 channels visible when I click the Search DVB devices button?

PS. I have not chosen the HD Homerun version with the firmware upgrade since I don't want to risk disturbing the functioning for my old PC. 

[Robot]

[Griga]

An attached support.zip would be much more informative than bad and almost unreadable screenshots...

 

[Robot]

Sorry about the screenshots. Attached is the support.zip file.

 

The problem is that the the HD Homerun device is not visible in the latest version of DVBViewer Pro but still works perfectly with the old version.

 

C:\ProgramData\CMUV\DVBViewer\support.zip

support.zip

[Griga]

Am 17.8.2025 um 16:46 schrieb Robot:

1.     Installed HD Homerun on my new Win 11 PC.

 

What exactly did you install?

 

Am 17.8.2025 um 16:46 schrieb Robot:

PS. I have not chosen the HD Homerun version with the firmware upgrade since I don't want to risk disturbing the functioning for my old PC. 

 

According to Langhuse's post above you need to install the "HDHomeRun Software for Windows – includes firmware upgrade". Otherwise DVBViewer is not able to detect the tuners via "Search DVB devices". There seems to be no way around it.

 

Your DVB device list contains two RTSP (Sat>IP) network devices, one for DVB-S(2), the other one for DVB-T(2), both pointing to a server at IP address 192.168.178.37. Obviously the server has been detected automatically by DVBViewer (maybe after clicking "Scan Sat>IP Servers"), so that two virtual network devices have been created for corresponding tuners in the server. Which server is it? Your HD Homerun Connect?

 

[Robot]

I purchased, downloaded and installed version 7.3.0.0. Version 6.1.1.0 is running on my old Windows 10 PC which will be replaced by this PC running Windows 11.

 

According to Langhuse's post above you need to install the "HDHomeRun Software for Windows – includes firmware upgrade". Otherwise DVBViewer is not able to detect the tuners via "Search DVB devices". 

 

The HDHomeRun CONNECT device is 7-8 years old (Model No. HDHR4-2DT) and is no longer available from SiliconDust. I'm afraid new firmware not be suitable and may stop it from working.

 

... so that two virtual network devices have been created for corresponding tuners in the server. Which server is it? Your HD Homerun Connect?

 

The server which is detected 192.168.178.37 has dual SAT tuners which work correctly with the new version of DVBViewer. The HD Home Connect (192.168.178.

46) is not detected with version 7.3.0.0 of DVBViewer but is working with version 6.1.1.0.

Is it possible to install this version on the Windows 11 PC?

 

[Griga]

vor 49 Minuten schrieb Robot:

The HD Home Connect (192.168.178.46) is not detected with version 7.3.0.0 of DVBViewer but is working with version 6.1.1.0.

 

This means, there is a HDHomerun BDA driver installed on your old PC, but not on your new one. Do you still have the old driver installer? You could try to run it on the new PC.

 

vor 49 Minuten schrieb Robot:

The HDHomeRun CONNECT device is 7-8 years old (Model No. HDHR4-2DT) and is no longer available from SiliconDust. I'm afraid new firmware not be suitable and may stop it from working.

 

Usually software that installs firmware checks carefully if it is suitable for the device, so I wouldn't be so worried about it. However, you can also ask the HDHomerun support or post in the HDHomerun forum.

 

Since the firmware and driver installation is bundled in a single application, you have to use it for getting an up-to-date driver. There is no other choice.

 

vor 49 Minuten schrieb Robot:

Is it possible to install this version on the Windows 11 PC?

 

You can try... but DVBViewer 6.x.x won't work either without BDA driver.

 

[Robot]

I have version 7.2.2.0 running correctly with the HD Homerun terrestrial channels on my desk PC. This comment by Langhuse my be a clue since I first used a card connected to a terrestrial antenna:

 

Apparently DVBViewer depends on the BDA driver to detect networked HD Homerun tuners.

 

How can I detect the presence of a BDA driver? 

If this turns out to be the reason why DVBViewer is not detecting the HD Homerun terrestrial device how can I install a suitable BDA driver on the Win 11 PC? 

 

Thanks in advance for your help.

[Griga]

vor 4 Stunden schrieb Robot:

How can I detect the presence of a BDA driver? 

 

By running the DVBViewer setup wizard or clicking Options -> Hardware -> Scan devices in DVBViewer. If this adds tuners (or has added tuners) to the device list, you have one or more devices with a BDA driver.

 

vor 4 Stunden schrieb Robot:

how can I install a suitable BDA driver on the Win 11 PC? 

 

By doing what you try to avoid by all means:

 

vor 5 Stunden schrieb Robot:

install the "HDHomeRun Software for Windows – includes firmware upgrade"

 

It seems to be really hard for you to get this point

 

[Robot]

I did the following:

1. Uninstalled DVBViewer.

2. Checked with SiliconDust that upgrading the firmware on my legacy HD HomeRun device would not stop it working. 

3. Installed the new software including the firmware upgrade. 

4. Installed DVBViewer - the Wizard detected the two HD HomeRun tuners.

After starting DVBViewer and messing about with the Options/Hardware settings the SAT and Terrestrial channels could be scanned. No BDA drivers were involved. 

 

So the good news is that DVBViewer now works with the SAT and HD HomeRun tuners on our new Win 11 media PC

 

Yes, I'm really getting too old for playing with this stuff 🤪

But DVBViewer has been the central component of our Media-PC for about 20 years now and I don't want to expose us to the perils of a ‘Smart’ TV just because Microsoft is making it impossible to run Windows 11 on the old PC hardware. 

 

Thanks for your support Griga and Langhuse. 

[Griga]

vor 12 Minuten schrieb Robot:

Installed DVBViewer - the Wizard detected the two HD HomeRun tuners (...) No BDA drivers were involved. 

 

Of course they are involved.  Otherwise DVBViewer wouldn't be able to detect the HDHomerun tuners. The HDHomerun BDA drivers are a kind of virtual stuff simulating DVB hardware connected to the PC, though it only exists remotely in the network.

 

I wonder why HDHomerun doesn't implement a Sat>IP server, instead of using a proprietary solution for providing network tuners. Following the Sat>IP standard would enable more application possibilities and make it easier for users (particularly users like you).