CX23882-19 Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 I noticed that my new Radeon HD 2400 exhibits this same bug, whereas all previous generations of ATI cards (including the last generation X1950 Pro) were "immune" to it. Link to comment
CiNcH Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 (edited) True, this means bugfixing for the DVBViewer: rename 'nVIDIA VMR Fix' to 'nVIDIA/ATi VMR Fix' within language files *g* BTW, some thought that YUV mixing could fix the problem, but YUV mixing introduces a different problem in combination with DXVA/VMR deinterlacing in case of nVIDIA: Edited September 22, 2007 by CiNcH Link to comment
ricabullah Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 Hi guys! I gave it a try as well. NVidia 8600 GTS, Vista 32, FW 163.67. SD+SD: SD+HD: And DVBViewerPro: is flickering between 1/4 screen; and full screen: Link to comment
CiNcH Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 Ohhhhh, Gerhard Berger on the last image! Austriaaaaaa! Link to comment
ricabullah Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 Yes, BTW we mentioned this succesfull Austrian guy. Link to comment
ricabullah Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 (edited) By the way, i forgot telling i've loaded some hotfixes that nVida advises: Vista hotfixes I think 3 and 4 might be important. Check out whether you have them. Edited September 22, 2007 by ricabullah Link to comment
CiNcH Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 [ADD] 8-Bit color depth does not solve the problem. DVBViewer automatically reverts to Overlay in this case. Link to comment
ricabullah Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 Hi CiNcH! Would you make any comment on my screen captures? What do you think? Link to comment
ricabullah Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 Hi guys! Some of you might find it interesting: some questions best! Link to comment
CiNcH Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 It is progressive material. Problem is the deinterlacer that produces the quarter picture image which is obviously not used for 720p. Link to comment
ricabullah Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 (edited) Then, what is wrong with GE? ( It is my favorite as you know.) More interesting, it gives the same slide-show with any renderer.(i say %100 slide-show without any video piece) Edited September 30, 2007 by ricabullah Link to comment
ricabullah Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Hi Griga! All the filters are the same with pro but still slide-show is exist with progressive EinsFestival on GE. I hoped you fixed this issue on your new version of GE and downloaded it; i saw nothing has changed. Link to comment
CiNcH Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 (edited) It's most probably just a problem with this special sample recording. It is just a short sample. If you have problems in real-life scenarios then it is worth taking a look at it. We are going way too much off-topic in this thread now... Edited October 4, 2007 by CiNcH Link to comment
ricabullah Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 (edited) OK, before i shut up i wanna ask a last question to you: have you lived any problem while watching this short clip with GE? If the answer is "yes", have you met any problem with this clip on Pro? And i've shut up!! Edited October 4, 2007 by ricabullah Link to comment
CiNcH Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 No, it somehow only plays fine in pure software mode when using GE, DXVA is a no-go with this sample in GE. Link to comment
ricabullah Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Really? Five guys checked out this clip with GE and confirmed me. BTW, nobody would expect HA with this short clip but at least some movie not just pictures. Link to comment
CiNcH Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 I confirmed it too. Think you did not get me... Link to comment
ricabullah Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 (edited) No, i did not really. You should have been more clear. Edited October 4, 2007 by ricabullah Link to comment
ricabullah Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 (edited) Hi! I want to make the correction of my mistake. Today, one of my friends uploaded a longer Eins Frestival record. (thx to skove22) Really i must say GE is working with 720p as well without any problem. Sorry Griga! Edited October 11, 2007 by ricabullah Link to comment
Madnut Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Hi guys, very interesting topic this. I am using vista 32 with a Nvidia 8600GT graphics card, TT S3200, DVBViewer 3.9.1.1 and I am experiencing exactly the same Stuttering whilst using VMR9 but only On HD channels, all the SD are really smooth. I have just discovered the Vista Enhanced Renderer and it's as SMOOTH AS HELL!! with either SD or HD channels, the colours are really deep and bright, the blacks wonderful and no flickering as with VMR renderer. For those using Vista give it a try, for those with XP it can work too, just download : http://www.DVBViewer.info/forum/index.php?showtopic=21791 The only problem I am experiencing is whilst watching SD channels I have to resize/stretch the screen every time I switch on DVBViewer, and the settings on the renderer will not keep. Let me know if you are experiencing similar problems. Link to comment
Moses Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 This is a known problem and most likely won't be fixed in DVBViewer for quite a while, because EVR support is still experimental and not a big priority at this time. In XP it's not recommended to use EVR. There are even reports that it doesn't work with DVBViewer Pro. Link to comment
ricabullah Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 (edited) The only problem I am experiencing is whilst watching SD channels I have to resize/stretch the screen every time I switch on DVBViewer, and the settings on the renderer will not keep. Let me know if you are experiencing similar problems. Give it a try with GE; no problem here. Zoom property works very well. Edited January 6, 2008 by ricabullah Link to comment
Madnut Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 This is a known problem and most likely won't be fixed in DVBViewer for quite a while, because EVR support is still experimental and not a big priority at this time. In XP it's not recommended to use EVR. There are even reports that it doesn't work with DVBViewer Pro. Thanks for your help Moses, I've been trying to find a solution for days now, but I think you have convinced me to give up for the time being. I must say though this is a pity because the picture quality from EVR is really great. For the time being I'm using "unchanged" and I've managed to get quite a good picture by using the settings in the Nvidia display panel. I agree about the fact that the EVR causes bugs with XP I have read several subjects on this even though some get satisfaction from it. Link to comment
Madnut Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Give it a try with GE; no problem here. Zoom property works very well. Thanks for the info ricabullah, I admit that I have never tried the GE version of DVBViewer, what exactly is the difference between the GE and the pro version? does the GE version exist in English or French or is it just in German? when you say zoom function works is that whilst re-zooming through the EVR settings? or through the video and audio settings of DVBViewer? Thanks for your help Link to comment
ricabullah Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Thanks for the info ricabullah, I admit that I have never tried the GE version of DVBViewer, what exactly is the difference between the GE and the pro version? does the GE version exist in English or French or is it just in German? when you say zoom function works is that whilst re-zooming through the EVR settings? or through the video and audio settings of DVBViewer? Thanks for your help Extract DVBVGE_2_4_4 onto desktop and carry this folder under C > Program Files. Open the folder and find Language sub-folder. Under language folder, you will see a file named Deutch.Ing; just delete it. When you start the program you will meet an english version of it. Link to comment
Madnut Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Extract DVBVGE_2_4_4 onto desktop and carry this folder under C > Program Files.Open the folder and find Language sub-folder. Under language folder, you will see a file named Deutch.Ing; just delete it. When you start the program you will meet an english version of it. Ok thanks, I'll give it a try. What is the main difference between this version and the pro version? Link to comment
ricabullah Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 (edited) Ok thanks, I'll give it a try. What is the main difference between this version and the pro version? OK GE (Griga Edition/ not German Edition as supposed) is an experimental version of DVBV on which our friends make some critical innovations before applying them on to the main program. For the time being the most important thing which GE has is real EVR support, including "zoom" property. Second is the preview function is much better than Pro. For scaling with EVR selected (i consider you use Vista32): select zoom under settings and shift "pan and zoom" as much as you want: Edited January 6, 2008 by ricabullah Link to comment
Madnut Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 OK GE (Griga Edition/ not German Edition as supposed) is an experimental version of DVBV on which our friends make some chritical innovations before applying them on to the main program.For the time being the most important thing which GE has is real EVR support, including "zoom" property. Second is the preview function is much better than Pro. For scaling with EVR selected (i consider you use Vista32): select zoom under settings and shift "pan and zoom" as much as you want: Great stuff thanks for that, I'll give it a go, do you get the technotrend remote support and favorite list as in pro version? Thanks again Link to comment
ricabullah Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 (edited) Great stuff thanks for that, I'll give it a go, do you get the technotrend remote support and favorite list as in pro version? Thanks again With infrared RS232 receiver of ss2 card and with winlirc, you can use TT3200 with remote on GE. (according to the experimental feedbacks of my friends. I didn't give it a try) For the favorites list, the answer is yes. Edit:sorry for the mistake it was not TT remote plug-in but Winlirc Edited January 6, 2008 by ricabullah Link to comment
Moses Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 GE bases on DVBViewer 2.x and therefore lacks many of the features pro has, for example the OSD is very different and not skinnalbe and so on... this enables much easier support of EVR in GE. Furthermore it lacks CI support and networking and so on... it's like a "reduced" version of current DVBViewer and developed by griga. It's more focused on "what's possible" and the newes technics (for example EVR, or AAC).. you should give it a try, but I think Pro is better for a HTPC. Link to comment
ricabullah Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 (edited) It's more focused on "what's possible" and the newes technics (for example EVR, or AAC).. This is what i said; just give it a go. It is very basic but very revolutionary version of the main application. Lets say "innovative" If you don't use an CI module physically and if you do not need OSD skins (like me), this is just for you. Edited January 6, 2008 by ricabullah Link to comment
PaqAttack Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Above all please excuse my English level Hello everyone, I would like initially to thank all the programmers for this fabulous program which is DVBViewer. My problem is that I do not think of using all the possibilities of my computer with DVBViewer. Here my configuration: Windows XP SP3 Up to date with 3Go, Technotrend S2 3650 and one Nvidia GeForce 9600GT 512. My Nvidia card functions by using the post processor FFDShow, I have an good image but I have only 12 or 13 images per seconds read on the 25 which I must have. And when I test the Nvidia post processor, the image is not better. I have to test other DVB programs with always Nvidia Decoder, like DVBDream or ProgDVB, and with DVBDream I have more than 45 images per seconds and 25 read, therefore a very fluid vidéos but the program is not comparable with DVBViewer. Exists there a solution to have better an image with a Nvidia card? Could have to perhaps use the same system of filter as DVBDream? I do not say that to decrease DVBViewer, it is the best for me! Link to comment
humando65 Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Hello, Even if you have a Nvidia card the Nvidia Decoder is not obligatory... I have a Nvidia graphic card since three years and I use others codecs as the FFDShow, the Elecard mpeg2 codec, the Cyberlink codec... have you try to use these kind of codecs? Maybe they work better? Bless, Olivier. Link to comment
PaqAttack Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Hello, Even if you have a Nvidia card the Nvidia Decoder is not obligatory... I have a Nvidia graphic card since three years and I use others codecs as the FFDShow, the Elecard mpeg2 codec, the Cyberlink codec... have you try to use these kind of codecs? Maybe they work better? Bless, Olivier. Yes, of course, but i've the same result, i've only 12, 13 frame/sec.. I just test the GE version of DVBViewer and there i've very good picture with framet rate at 46 Can use the same system as that of the GE version? Link to comment
Tjod Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Can use the same system as that of the GE version?In this part the difference between DVBViewer Pro and GE is the OSD.And the DVBViewer Pro OSD is not possible with the way the DVBViewer GE integrates the OSD. Link to comment
temeteus82 Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 Got some similar problems with Vista x64 I only can use EVR render and Orverlay and VMR7. I use mostly Elecard mepg2 codec and FFDShow. If I use VMR9 in anyway (with the work around or not) DVBViewer will crash. Got C2Q Q9300 4 GB RAM and GT8800 (185.85 drivers) and the DVB box is FireDTV. Any input would be welcome. support.zip Link to comment
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