Lars_MQ Posted February 12, 2009 Author Posted February 12, 2009 1. The service didn't appear to make any attempt to stop the standby from occuring. Can it not/Should it not signal the OS to stop going into standby, and stay awake as DVBViewer/service is configured in my setup to stop shutdown/standby if recording is within next 5 minutes? 2. At 22:28, when the OS put the computer into standby, the service set the next wake up time. This is the crucial bit - the service has set the wakeup time as 22:26 which already passed 2 minutes ago!! That's a real mean one. Brought to you thanks to Vista Took me quite some time and several tries to set the whole thing up to replicate it... 1. It can't. Vista doesn't allow it. Nothing new here. 2. That's the problem. When designing the whole stuff under XP this was not possible, because the service could stop standby/Hibernate. And then came Vista. You really need a lot of bad luck and a perfect sense for bad timing to hit this tiny timewindow where this can happen Anyway, thanks to your very good analysis and explanation I was able to reproduce and fix it. I can't prevent vista from going standby, but now I make sure the service sets a timer in the very near future which will wake up the computer.
CX23882-19 Posted February 12, 2009 Posted February 12, 2009 (edited) Maybe it's "bad practice", but could you mark the computer as in-use (ES_SYSTEM_REQUIRED?) 5 minutes before a recording is due to start? It won't prevent somebody from manually choosing to put the machine into standby by pressing the power button (Due to no longer being able to veto a suspend on Vista), but it should at least prevent idle timer timeouts from causing the computer to enter standby. By the way, keep up the great work on the Recording Service. It knocks the socks off every other DVB app out there, especially since the latest version can effectively be a "Server" for the DVBViewer "Client". I think another licence purchase will be on the cards, because all of these upgrades for about £10 is a bargain. Edited February 12, 2009 by CX23882-19
Tjod Posted February 12, 2009 Posted February 12, 2009 1. is it not possible to use the Away Mode for this to? If I remember it right it works during the recordings.
factor Posted February 12, 2009 Posted February 12, 2009 Thanx fot new service beta i find the server integration very good but i have a little bug (same on vista 32 or window 7 32).I have 2 DvbS2 card one Tevii S460 and one TT S2 3600.If i run DVBViewer on the computer who is the service(computer1)(card select is unicast in DVBViewer option) and after start DVBViewer client on a different computer(computer 2) on the LAN the picture go black on the computer 1, one second after all is ok until i close the client on computer then the picture go black on computer 1 until i switch to another channel.If i start first DVBViewer on the computer 2 and next on the computer 1 no black screen on computer 2 and if i stop the viewer on computer 1 no black screen on computer 2.The problem is only on the computer who is the service, it is not a cpu power problem (q6600@3.4 ghz)
Lars_MQ Posted February 13, 2009 Author Posted February 13, 2009 Not sure what the tasks are for actually as you can't even yet select them in the timer section, so I'm waiting patiently to see what happens with that and if there will be an ability to switch the PC into standby after waking it to use the GUI! ;-) have a look at the timer page of the webinterface there at the top is a link called tasks. Am I correct to number them 1, 2 and 3 to fix this, or should I be setting them such that the DVB-S is numbered 1 and the DVB-T devices are numbered 1 and 2 or something?!? The service should do it automatically. Something is not right there, I'll take a look. I'm concerned my change may be incorrect - and of course if it is a detection bug I'm sure there are other users that may benefit from a fix! Let's test it. please stop the service and rename the svchardware.xml in the config subfolder of the userdata folder. the start the service again. Now please just post the svchardware.xml without any changes. BTW: Hands of the channelgroups! -T and -S channel are detected by tunertype. you don't need to assign them to different groups.
Lars_MQ Posted February 13, 2009 Author Posted February 13, 2009 OK, thank you, I go bug hunting. Please move your old svchardware back into place. If BDA devices with different tunertypes have the same Devicenumber they are handlled as hybrid devices this means you can only receive channels of one tunertype at a time. There must somewhere be a bug in these detection routines...
Lars_MQ Posted February 14, 2009 Author Posted February 14, 2009 Thanks to your help and with your posted svchardware.xml I was able to locate and fix this bug. Hotfix is in the membersarea. If you could verify the detection now works correctly with your setup (means devicenumbers from 1..3), it would be very helpful.
redina Posted February 14, 2009 Posted February 14, 2009 Hello! I have an issue with recordingservice. The computer crashed some time a ago. And after that I had problem with recording service. Unistalled recordingservice and DVBViewer and reinstalled it again. Recordingservice 1.4.7.10. The problem with that version is the service don't start again after I exit DVBViewer. I installed the new version 1.4.7.51 and also now 1.4.7.52. Now is the other way around. It don't stop when I start DVBViewer, with the problem I can't see any channels that use the Cam. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. /Patrik support.zip
Lars_MQ Posted February 14, 2009 Author Posted February 14, 2009 I see nothing wrong, everything works as described in the readme. The only thing I don't understand, what's up with the CAM?
redina Posted February 14, 2009 Posted February 14, 2009 The Cam don't work when the recordingservice is running when i watch tv in DVBViewer. Then I have to exit DVBViewer and stop the recordingservice and start DVBViewer again. With the new recordingservice should it stop when i start DVBViewer or should is always be running?
Lars_MQ Posted February 14, 2009 Author Posted February 14, 2009 please read this explanation no need to repeat it all over again
CX23882-19 Posted February 14, 2009 Posted February 14, 2009 Is there going to be any way to highlight programmes in the Timeline view by their "genre"? For example, to display all "movie/drama (general)" in a certain colour.
Lars_MQ Posted February 14, 2009 Author Posted February 14, 2009 should not be too hard. we define a css style for each genre and I simply assign the genre name as class in the html. OK this would look very colorful and most probably very confusing. I need to think a little more about it. Would be also a nice to have feature in the TVGuide... (my preferred view )
redina Posted February 14, 2009 Posted February 14, 2009 please read this explanation no need to repeat it all over again Sometimes I'm blind. Now I got the new recordingservice to work. One issue that I have is in the configure Recorder to change where I save my recordings didn't work. I want to use c:\recordings instead of c:\users\public\video. 1 Add c:\recordings 2 delete c:\users\public\video. This step don't work it happens nothing, if I try to delete c:\recordings then it changes to c:\users\public\video I tried even to exit recordingservice and start it again, but same issue. My work around was that I edit the configfolder\config\service.xml and changed it. So I think it works not tried it. Question: Have I got i right that I can use the web epg search to set up auto search that adds timers, instead of using EPGPlus? (Maybee even have to with the latest version?) support.zip
atener Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 (edited) Hi Lars I have a problem with Recordingservice ver 1.4.7.52 Streaming to DVDViewer works fine, but as soon as I start a recording the web server stop responding, But I can see that it continues to record (the file growings in size). The streams to DVBViewer works fine until I change the channel then it stops to work. The server takes no extra cpu power (around 1-2%) Recordingservice do not respond "net stop" dont work and can´t kill it. it will stick in position Stopping Version upp to 1.4.7.10 works fine. (I´m running Windows 7) /aTENEr. Edited February 15, 2009 by Lars_MQ post support.zip NOT supporttool.zip...
Lars_MQ Posted February 15, 2009 Author Posted February 15, 2009 Please try again, this time post the support.zip
atener Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 Sorry Lars Here comes a new one. /aTENEr support.zip
Lars_MQ Posted February 16, 2009 Author Posted February 16, 2009 I will investigate this today. The service itself does not make any autoupdate and/or changes to the channels list. Grinding this badly to a halt (no gui/web etc) means something goes really wrong. It could be related to the driver of the card which takes the tuning to a non existing channel badly but that's just a guess for now.
HenPen Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 Like all recent versions the service is recording nicely using vista and a TT s-2400. No problems with wake-up or sleeping. The integrated DVBServer (Unicast) doesn't work fully. The client is getting EPG data and the channel tunes but no audio or video (radio or TV). I haven't tried any buffer changes since they're the same setting I use with DVBServer and it works. And what am I missing about the "Search presets" to make it work? I enter a string in "Search for:" and get results. And I see I can enter a "Search preset:" and save it but I'm missing the sequence to join these two things. support.zip
HenPen Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 I tried edit my post to correct my idiocity...On the last comment if one simply completes the search parameters, enters something in the "Save" field and clicks Save then you save the search - of course.
atener Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 Hello Lars I have done a little more testing now, The unicast server works great, I have using it for the last 24 hours and no problem at all I have used it as my streaming server for my HTPC and I did also start a local instants of DVBViewer (that used Unicast) and I did let that one record a lot of shows. Up to 4 simultaneous + my stream to the HTCP and it is working great The I did try to add a recording and the RecService web interface did locked up again /aTENEr
Lars_MQ Posted February 16, 2009 Author Posted February 16, 2009 You are sure the A/V PIDs are 0 when the channel is "dormant"?
Lars_MQ Posted February 16, 2009 Author Posted February 16, 2009 They are indeed. oh dear, who on earth would do such a stupid thing? Ok, rhetoric question I've taken a look at the autoupdate stuff in the viewer and I'm sure a A/V PID = 0 will not be taken in account (it wasn't before but now I made it extra safe ) I'll look at the update channel scan procedures also. I check the stuff with the service tomorrow morning because today the service on my main server is quite busy.
stsa Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 Hi, I have two firedtv DVB-C and using 1.14.7.52, the problem is that when watching from PCH I can only see the channels from the first DVB-C. If I try to watch channels that is on the other DVB-C the PCH says BUFFERING for a 15 sec and then Audio but there no picture or sound. If I for example look on a channel from the first DVB-C I can watch the other DVB-C channels from Web-interface/Streaming or XBMC so it seems to work that way. Any clues ? support.zip
Lars_MQ Posted February 17, 2009 Author Posted February 17, 2009 They are indeed. I've just re-scanned the mux right now (it doesn't broadcast until 9pm-1am tonight) and I've exported the CNN channel and attached the .ini file below. You'll see it has a Service ID, etc, but no A/V PIDs. It is a bit of a pain as to ensure I have a complete channel tuning, I have to tune at different points during the day to ensure I get all the Audio/Video PIDs. Nothing that can be done about that though. :-( Found it. Well, short workaround: Record as TS. It won't record anything meaningfull but at least the service won't crash hard. I now changed the following: If AudioPID AND VideoPID are 0 and recording format=mpeg then change recordingformat to TS. Only this way we can get this thing to work, because in TS I can add PIDs dynamically. The TS format recording will check the PMT for changes and if it finds channel.audioPID = 0 then it tries to add all audiochannels found in the new PMT Table. The same goes for VideoPID. This way we can save the recording in a valid way (if possible) and we can make sure the next recordings will start...
Lars_MQ Posted February 17, 2009 Author Posted February 17, 2009 I assume you're saying this would only affect my Standard Definition recordings as High Definition recordings seem to automatically switch to TS format anyway? h.264 encoded recordings (HD or SD) are only allowed in TS because there is no definition for h.264 in MPEG. And you don't loose anything (with my fix). A MPEG TS Recording can be converted in a MPEG (PS) file with the tsplayer in very short time...
stsa Posted February 17, 2009 Posted February 17, 2009 Finally got i working with two firedtv. My fault I think, Did a new channelsearch and select Group A with the first DVB-C (FireDTV) Did another channelsearch and selected Group B and that scanned the other DVB-C (FireDTV 2) After that I can select and watch all channels from PCH
janip Posted February 18, 2009 Posted February 18, 2009 The main thing is it won't crash the service, and that's the most important thing when it comes down to a recording service. It needs to work 100% 24/7 and if it does fail, it can pick itself back up again without human intervention. :-) I use vista and there is very good service control. Automatic service restart and many other things. http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/window-on-windows/?p=447
janip Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 IE bug? I can't see complete recording folder name with ie.
Lars_MQ Posted February 19, 2009 Author Posted February 19, 2009 Most likely the dropdown is only too small.
janip Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 I think it works with firefox, but i confirm that when i am home. How about if folder auto selection can compare my folder and program name? Then talent usa go automatic to talent folder. Ofcourse if harddrive is full, service must change automatic to other disk.
Lars_MQ Posted February 19, 2009 Author Posted February 19, 2009 http://www.DVBViewer.info/forum/index.php?...st&p=231911 take a look at the * Recording filename: section.
janip Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 http://www.DVBViewer.info/forum/index.php?...st&p=231911 take a look at the * Recording filename: section. Dropdown is ok with firefox. Maybe IE can't set dropdown larger than orignal window. I have to look that %station\%date_%time_%station_%event, i read that earlier, but can't understand it...
redina Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 I have only one TV-card and when a recording is started when I watch TV. The DVBViewer seems like it's hang. It doesn't it just that the service is recording something else that I don't watch. My suggestions is that it streams that channel instead. And or some info what is going on. Maybee this is not priority one, but it helps that you don't think something crashed. I don't know if that is a problem for you guys that have more tv-cards.
redina Posted February 20, 2009 Posted February 20, 2009 4.0 no beta. Is this handled in the beta version?
Lars_MQ Posted February 20, 2009 Author Posted February 20, 2009 Yes it is. The service tells the DVBViewer to follow to the new channel and the viewer switches accordingly.
tiit12 Posted February 20, 2009 Posted February 20, 2009 Sorry for my bad english for first. I searched the topics, but cant find answer for my problem with streaming. I have enabled webserver and set port for streaming (3332). I cannot use transcoding. Embedded players are showing that there is no video (tried WMV and VLC profiles with different settings) and when I try to open with IE that address (http://myip:3332), then comes a 404 page. Direct connect with UPnP works, but only for recorded files. Live TV seems to connect to different port as when i waths recorded shows (my webserver is set 8080, if i watch recorded shows, connects VLC to port 8080 and then video plays, if i try to watch live TV with Direct connect, VLC tries to connect to port 3332 (streaming port) and does nothing. Winamp tells that problem with syncing). Sorry if that does not belong to this topic and somewhere is a FAQ for that problem, and i have not found this. But its a very useful function, that i would gladly use. I have installed DVBViewer 4.0 beta (tried also with 4.0 stable), VLC 0.8.6i, Recording service 1.4.7.52 beta (i tried 1.4.6 version, but the same problem). OS is Win7.
Lars_MQ Posted February 20, 2009 Author Posted February 20, 2009 Please post a support.zip, so I can see which setting you have actually done for the streaming and ports.
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